Michael D: It is important to
understand that In the new covenant there is no Sabbath day. There is a
sabbath, but not a Sabbath day. So, sabbath day is not every day of the week
as you are questioning, nor is it Saturday or any other day.
Then
what day is it that Jesus is Lord of?????????????????????????
MAT
12:8 {For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.}
MAR 2:28 {Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the
sabbath.}
LUK 6:5 And he said unto them, {That the Son of man
is Lord also of the
sabbath.}
I
think you are trying to change the word of God. There are other types
of Sabbaths, of the Land for instance, the Jubilee, and a millennial Sabbath
can be deduced. How can you have a close "relationship"
to God and do away with His commandments? Since when does obedience
become evil?
Do
not fall into the trickery of the decietful workers of iniquity
[lawlwessness]. Keepers of the law do not sin, "...for sin is
the transgression of the law." (1JO 3:4). Therefore,
law keepers are under grace.
ROM
6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are
not under the
law, but
under grace.
Law
breakers are not under grace, for "Whosoever committeth sin
transgresseth also the law..." (1JO 3:4) Sin has dominion over
them, not God. Oh whom do you want to serve? Sin or God?
Choose.
ROM
6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants
to obey, his
servants
ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of
obedience
unto righteousness?
If
you want to sin, serve Satan; he is your god. All these silly arguments
are for those who want to worship on the day of the Sun god. Notice:
LUK
13:27 {But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye
are; depart
from me, all ye workers of
iniquity.}
LUK 13:28 {There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye
shall see
Abraham,
and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom
of God,
and you [yourselves] thrust out.}
MAT
19:17 And he said unto him, {Why callest thou me good? [there is]
none
good but
one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life,
keep the
commandments.}
1JO 5:2 By this we know that we love the
children of God, when we love God,
and keep his
commandments.
1JO 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his
commandments: and his
commandments are not grievous.
REV 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
and went to make war with
the
remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and
have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
REV 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they
that keep the
commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
--Marlin
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January
14, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.
Marlin Halverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Now, let me ask you if you are open to me showing you that the seventh
day
> Sabbath commandment was also a shadow. Are you willing to consider
> Scripture and arguments to consider this? My position is that the
seventh
> day Sabbath was a shadow. Your position is that it was not a shadow.
> Correct?
>
> David Miller
As a shadow, God's presence is in it, a holy day, set aside for
fellowshipping with Him. It is a shadow of God's coming dwelling with men
in His millennial reign, as well as His dwelling with us in Spirit now. But
we must also work the six days, so the same fellowship is not possible on
the days He has not sanctified as holy.
Are you willing to consider that the Sabbath is the seventh day?
Are you willing to consider that the fourth commandment is about working the
six days that precede it?
Trying to say it is "every day" is an idea of men, invented because
they
refuse God's clear commandment and want to meet on the venerable day of Sun
worship.
--Marlin
Michael D: It is important to
understand that In the new covenant there is no Sabbath day. There is a
sabbath, but not a Sabbath day. So, sabbath day is not every day of the week
as you are questioning, nor is it Saturday or any other day.
It is a relationship of rest in Jesus by
faith. We cease from our own works for righteousness, and become children of
God by faith in Jesus, appropriating His work for us on the cross. I realize
that this concept has been very difficult for you to grasp, but it
is the Word of the new covenant.
Again, Paul says that whatever the law says,
it says to those who are under the law... Rom 3...
Marlin, do you consider yourself to be under
the law?
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