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Sent: 02/01/2003 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Some Things To Think About

ftr, what's the difference, below, betw 'works of the Law' (which 'do not justify') and personal 'works', e.g., in Abe's case, 'his works'? these are obviously different categories of 'works' partic in view of the fact that Abe could not have been doing 'works of the Law' while 'the Law' did not exist--Moses was born hundreds of years later
 
Sabbath was given by The Almighty at Creation ... murder was already wrong only a couple of chapters later ... clean beasts were noted in chapter 7.
 
Perhaps you think stealing and adultery were OK prior to Moses?
 
So "'the Law' did not exist" you say (write)?
 
"Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and KEPT My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Laws." Genesis 26:5
 
As for Paul's writings, go read what Peter had to say about that in II Peter 3 and then jump back to Matthew 5 and see what The Saviour Himself had to say on the matter and see if you are ready for the last recorded written words of Peter.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 02/01/2003 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Some Things To Think About

ftr, what's the difference, below, betw 'works of the Law' (which 'do not justify') and personal 'works', e.g., in Abe's case, 'his works'? these are obviously different categories of 'works' partic in view of the fact that Abe could not have been doing 'works of the Law' while 'the Law' did not exist--Moses was born hundreds of years later
 
also, ftr, Paul (who teaches the premise, above) did not say, below, that he operates according to what is written in 'the Law'--he reserves the word written for the Prophets; he means that he operates according to Moses' underlying teaching of resurrection; proof: Moses is included in 'these men' (below) along with 'the Prophets'
 
read carefully(!); in sum (total), below, Paul views the Law and the Prophets (each) in separate categories of thought/interpretation--he neither interprets them identically, nor adheres to them identically; however, he realizes that the L&P (together) teach the resurrection of both 'the righteous and the wicked'--that's it(!):
 
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:51:39 -0600 "little children of Jesus Christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

��A man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.� (Galatians 2:15-16).

 I once heard this statement called �CHRISTIANITY 101.� I would like to introduce you to "Christianity 102:"

Was not Avraham our father justified by works when he offered up Yitzchak his son on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "AND AVRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS," and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. (Yaakov/James 2:21-24 [NASB'95])

This is just one reason why many believe in keeping the Torah. Keeping Torah out of obedience and love for YHVH is not heresy. It's not Judaizing. This is not Work-based righteousness. It is submission to the Father�s will as outlined in both covenant Scriptures.

"But this I admit to you, that according to The Way which they call a sect [KJV: Heresy] I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets; having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. In view of this, I also do my best to maintain always a blameless conscience {both} before God and before men." (Acts 24:14-16)

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