David, I'm not sure I understand your question. Of course both of them are guilty of breaking the 10 commandments. Only Bill would be a criminal in our culture. Of course Bill did a worse thing by injuring (not loving) another person while disobeying (not loving) God. Fred just disobeyed (did not love) God. Is that what you were asking?
Izzy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath Izzy wrote: > Here is a website that I agree with regarding Sabbath-keeping: > http://www.newwine.org/Sabbath3/Grace_b.htm. > What do you think about it? I thought the articles made many good points, but the author misses it when he emphasizes keeping the Ten Commandments the way that he does. We either obtain righteousness by grace through faith or by keeping the law (Romans 10:1-13). He seems to understand that we ought not use the doctrine of grace to excuse sin, but he goes back to the righteousness which comes by the law when he emphasizes the need to keep the Ten Commandments. Izzy, let me ask you a question. Suppose there are two men named Bill and Fred. Bill watches Fred gather three sticks of wood on Saturday for his fireplace. Bill then goes over to Fred's house later that same day and takes up rocks and beats Fred to death with those rocks. Which of these men would be considered sinners according to the Ten Commandments? Which of these men would be considered criminals according to the laws of our culture? Also, do you see any moral difference between the crime of a man murdering another man and the crime of a man gathering a few sticks of wood on Saturday? Please be honest and tell me what you think. These are difficult questions, but they go right to the heart of the idea of Sabbath keeping. If we can discuss these questions, I might take time to critique his analysis of Hebrews. I think he missed the point there. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
