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> DavidH,
>
> In John 8:54 (KJV): Jesus answered, If I honor myself my honor is nothing:
> it is my Father that honoreth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God.
>
> Here Jesus affirms that it is His Father whom the Jews worship. This also
> contadicts your theory that Jesus and Jehovah of the old testament are the
> same, just as does the previous verse I quoted.

DAVEH:�� Consider the context of what Jesus was saying, and who he was speaking to, 
Perry.� Vs 58 pretty much confirms that Jesus was the God of the OT the Jews 
worshipped........

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

........note in the next verse, they understood him to claim to be the God of the OT, 
as they then........

"........took up stones to cast at him:........"

> So, we have Jesus saying that the temples were His Father's house, and even
> confirming that the Jews worshipped His Father. I guess 6000 years of Jews
> and 2000 years of Christians are all wrong, and DavidH is right? (Look!
> Everyone is marching out of step but my son!)
>
> Perry
>
> >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is Jehovah
> >Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 06:54:27 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >
> > > DavidH,
> > >
> > >��� You haved begged the question David. You have created a logical
> > > inconsistency, then when confronted on it, swept it under the rug! This
> >is
> > > typical of LDS theology, and yours in particular. Would you like to take
> >a
> > > second stab at explaining the inconsistency you have created?
> >
> >DAVEH:� No Perry, I don't see it as an inconsistency at all.� Whatever
> >Jesus does is to glorify his Father......whether it be die on the cross, or
> >have an edifice built for him.� The two are one in purpose........to bring
> >to pass the immortality and
> >eternal life of man.
> >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is Jehovah
> > > >Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 23:15:25 -0700
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > DaveH,
> > > > >
> > > > >�� If Jesus was the God of the OT that the Jews worshiped (Jehovah),
> >then
> > > >it
> > > > > must be for Jesus that they built the temple(s). Yet Jesus calls the
> > > >Temple
> > > > > his Father's house. Doesn't that create a circular argument?
> > > >
> > > >DAVEH:� Not in my opinion.� I suspect both our Heavenly Father and his
> >Son
> > > >will feel welcome in the House of the Lord!
> > > >
> > > > > Perry

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