Slade writes: It's not the Torah that is cruel... it would be legalists like you who demand a certain bar which cannot be moved for a demanding situation. You are the reason the Pharisees created a series of "If... Then..." regulations that they tied to the Torah. This was their way of protecting the citizens from stringent, strick legalists.
jt: Arn't things a little turned around here Slade? Are you making the Pharisees the good guys now and rewriting history? What about the Palestinian Talmud, the Babylonian Talmud, and the Mishnah? I've read that there are 6,000 minor laws written by the Rabbis to translate the Torah - nothing DavidM has written comes anywhere near that. > I do not object to expounding upon how certain laws in Torah might > supersede other laws and allow for burning a fire, but surely we ought > to begin with agreement that Torah specifically says not to pick up > sticks or burn a fire in our homes. Why is it so difficult to get > agreement upon this teaching of Torah? Because extenuating circumstances need to be accounted for. I still believe the situation was regarding the "high hand." If the man did NOT have a high hand and he was concerned for his family's well being, [imo] he woulds not have died. After all, the priests "defile" the Shabbat every week.. jt: Now or back then?.................. Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.