Dean Moore > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 1/1/2004 11:46:57 AM > Subject: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD > > > From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Judy wrote: > > > To tell the truth I don't know what they do out there > > > but if it is anything like their ministry to the Mormons > > > on TT, then I would say Amen... because I hear a lot of > > > pride in what they say, us vs them attitudes, defensiveness > > > and accusation. The one thing I do not hear is caring > > > and/or love. How do you expect to communicate anything > > > to anyone like this? > > Dean: > I totally disagree with you statement here Judy-When I first came on this > site I treated you as a full sister-with much love and how was that love > returned?You attacked me and the street preachers to agree with the > Mormons-you attacked the brethren to agree with false prophets. > > Judy: > Yes you were respectful when I joined the list Dean and I > appreciate that - but I think there is a misunderstanding here, what > I have done is 'challenge' you and the other Street Preachers in > some areas. I didn't ever consider this to be "an attack". It is also > incorrect to say that I agree with Mormon doctrine. They are people > and I do prefer the way they go about doing what they do - ATST I > have publicly stated my belief over and over which is that they > follow 'another Jesus' and they have a 'different gospel'. > > Dean: > And have continued to do so when we showed you scripture to > support what we do-Yet you will not accept that scripture. > > Judy: > I'm not sure what scripture you are speaking of or why you needed > to show it to me. I don't have a problem with preaching in a home, > in a building, or in the street. What I do find troublesome are > some of the attitudes and actions involved and the way it is done. > > Dean: > You claimed that I was wrong (as did David) to declare DaveH spoke > against the Holy Spirit to which I proved with scripture that he in fact > did > that. You wish to be called a sister yet every word we speak you attempt > to tear apart. > > Judy: > I don't remember the Holy Spirit controversy with DaveH - or whether > or not I commented; nor do I recall saying anything about what you > should call me. The Lord knows those who are His and I am happy > to defer to His judgment. > > Dean: > You continue to insist that the S.Preachers should be out preaching. I > don't see anyone lead by the Holy Spirit doing this. You have shout love! > > Love! and when I show love to Ruben you find fault in that also. > > Judy: > Did you mean to say "shouldn't be out preaching?" If so, I never > insisted on anything like that. What you write to Ruben is more like > hero worship and adulation than love Dean but I am not holding you > to some standard different from that for myself. It takes a consistent > walk > after the Spirit for the love of God to be perfected and the heart made > pure; in fact this is the goal of the instruction according to Paul the > apostle (see 1 Tim 1:5) > > Dean: > We show love by pointing out sin and it's long term effects We show > love by telling them Of Jesus Christ and him crucified-not just sitting > across from them at the dinner table smiling- > > Judy: > Sometimes we must earn the right to be heard Dean and some SP tactics > are not conducive to good communication with others. > > Dean: > Tell me did you tell the Mormon at you dinner about the hell they are > headed to-did you love them enough to even try and help them? > > Judy: > No Dean we loved him by serving him and our family gave him gifts. > > Dean: > Thus far the only smiling love I have seen you show was to false > prophets Mormons and by doing so you are breaking the 11th commandment > (A new commandment I give unto you that ye love the brethren) > > Judy: > You are adding to God's Word by putting your own spin (interpretation) > on it Dean. There is no 11th Commandment. There is ONE NEW Commandment > upon which hangs all the law and the prophets. This Commandment is to > LOVE > not only the brethren. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves and also > love > and care for our enemies... and there is no way around it. > > Dean: > -and will not repent. You continue to nash at us with your teeth so we > are withdrawing from you which is putting you farther into the Mormon > camp- > whom are sweet talking you to get you to come closer as you can also burn > > in a devils hell with them. > > Judy: > I don't need to repent right now - the Holy Spirit is quite capable of > convicting me whenever I do transgress the 'royal law' - and Dean why > would > you think that it is in your power to push me toward the Mormons or pull > me > away from them? > > Dean: > Tell me if you are fair with you love to the lost then where is that love > > demonstrated towards TPW? Both Ruben and I have shown more caring for > him then you have- > > Judy: > I have spoken the truth in love to TPW on this list and have gone about > as far as one can go under these very peculiar circumstances - would you > have me to invite him to dinner Dean? > > Dean: > maybe if he converts to Mormonism he will be invited to dinner also. > There isn't one street preacher on this list who wasn't first attacked by > you. You have /are forcing then to defend themselves and are finding out > they can do so-so you go and complain to David that we are mean to you. I > was once asked if you are of Jesus Christ to which I said I don't know > -well now I do know-you are no sister of mine. > > Judy: > Whether you accept or reject me is your choice Dean. > > > Dean: > David can declare you as" strong"-"very intelligent"-"a Christian" and > all > that does is lower my respect for him.My Bible says that if someone is > of God then I will know them by their fruit-there will be a visible fruit > to > be seen-or even told of- not just a claim of being a waterer-one of God > cannot help but to bear fruit- we are telling you how to bear fruit and > all we get back from you is "love.love","stop preaching". 1 John 2:19.. > But they went out, that they might be manifest that they are not of us. > > Judy: > I realize it is a waste of time but allow me to state once more that I > have never told you to start or stop the first thing Dean... and I do > find > it very curious that you are so incensed at the idea of loving people. > > Dean: > I would also like to remind DavidM that appx 99 % of the brethren show > great love for each other-You aren't around us enough to even know what > we > share. The only problems I see is there are some who want to be leaders > -so > they go out to steal sheep and to do so they cause problems to get those > sheep-but even then they are few. Many of us come from different > denominations yet out on the street we are one and bond as one in the > common fight-we also debate those different issues in private-with > respect- > but we recognize each other as part of the body and if you will notice on > this site we are one here also-but you seem to be only with us in part. > > Judy: > You are one in the sense that "you are us" and "they are them" This is > what is known as a sectarian spirit and is not the oneness in the Holy > Spirit > that should unite the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Right now there > are > a lot of people who don't know the Lord who are one with their group > under > their doctrinal statement. > > Dean: > Our shared brotherhood extends to all I have preached with -I could go > and > invite many others here and you would see that same bond. To which I > assure > you not one Preacher other then you David would ever bond with a Mormon. > > Judy: > If the rest are anything like what I have seen here they would not even > treat a Mormon like a human being which is so wrong. > > Dean: > So I would appreciate it if you would stop putting the brethren down-the > world > does this often enough we don't need it from you. There is a "us and > them" > relationship present in God word and we are told to not be one with the > world. > > Judy: > I'm not 'one with the world' Dean and I find this statement curious > coming > from one who defends the use of the Martial Arts which, in fact, is the > spirit > of the world. > > Dean: > 1 John2:19..that they might be made manifest that they are not of us. > > Judy: > The above refers to false teachers/preachers - (could be even street > preachers). > John speaks of one who would not 'receive the brethren' and who liked to > have the pre-eminence.... this is the same sectarian spirit. > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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