Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of My Nephew Jeff

[Dave]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave: I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same question as you DAVEH:    I think most LDS folks are curious to know how Protestantsunderstand God's creation of Lucifer, the tree of knowledge of good andevil and the relationship they have with the plan of salvation.  From ourperspective, those things are very important to our eternal progression.From what I am hearing from TTers, it seems most Protestants believeAdam's fall was an unfortunate incident that has caused a lot of grief foreverybody.  That is diametrically opposite of my belief. Judy:In all the years I've been around believers I've never heard anyoneagonizing over the fall. I accept it as having taken place before I wasborn. DAVEH:  But.....you do prefer that it had not happened, do you not?  From my perspective, the fall was an important part of the plan of salvation, and is necessary for our eternal progression. I can't do much about them but God has made a way for me todo something about me and since Jesus is the lamb slain before thefoundation of the world, God took care of things before they happened.What do you mean by "eternal progression" DAVEH:  Eternal progression is the evolution from our spiritual birth to eventually becoming one with God, and like God.  To do that, I believe it was necessary for the fall of Adam to take place, and the grace of the Lord to provide a pathway to salvation. and what does the _expression_"tracted into" mean?DAVEH:  Knocking on doors until you tract into a situation that is a bit unusual.DAVEH:  I'll let Jeff speak for himself when he returns this summer, asI suspect he will join TT again and you can ask him personally. Judy:Has he been born again by the Spirit of God and is he a follower of the resurrected Christ?  One who walks after the Spirit daily or is he just another follower of Joseph Smith and his BofM? You don't have to answer the above ... because if that were true hewould not be a Mormon missionary who is out there tracting.DAVEH:  LOL........Ohhhhhh Judy, aren't you cheeky!Judy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.