Blaine: Dave, I did not know Jeff was your nephew. I do remember him, and a lot of stuff he tried to deal with on TT that seemed rediculous. . . Those quotes about God sending people to hell for his own glory were an eye opener. I wonder if that is a frequently held doctrine among Protestants or if it was just his own views. Anyone on TT want to respond to that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of My Nephew Jeff
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi Dave: > > I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same question > > as you > > DAVEH: I think most LDS folks are curious to know how Protestants understand God's creation of Lucifer, the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the relationship they have with the plan of salvation. From our perspective, those things are very > important to our eternal progression. From what I am hearing from TTers, it seems most Protestants believe Adam's fall was an unfortunate incident that has caused a lot of grief for everybody. That is diametrically opposite of my belief. > > > and what does the expression "tracted into" mean? > > DAVEH: Tracting is our expression for knocking on doors cold turkey style. > > > The apathy does not surprise me; nor does the confusion concerning > > "truth" because there is massive Bible illiteracy out there even among > > those in leadership positions in nominal Churches. Have you seen any > > Barna polls on this? > > DAVEH: No. But I can give you a personal example. I was tracting in a new area and met a lady who brushed us off with saying that she attended the church just down the street a block or so. Being new in the area, I was curious as to which church she > belonged to, and asked her what religion it was. Her reply was, "I forgot." Hmmmm......I think that qualifies as an example of apathy, eh! > > > How is your nephew so certain he is not being led by the blind? > > DAVEH: I'll let Jeff speak for himself when he returns this summer, as I suspect he will join TT again and you can ask him personally. > > > Has > > he been born again by the Spirit of God and is he a follower of the > > resurrected Christ? One who walks after the Spirit daily or is he just > > another follower of Joseph Smith and his BofM? > > > > How sad and what a shame that Christians are so lethargic. > > > > Grace and Peace, > > Judy > > > > From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > DAVEH: Note to some of the old TTers........Jeff has been gone from TT > > some 20 months now, but he still refers to TT in some of his posts to > > his Mom (who transcribes them for email distribution). Here is an > > excerpt from his latest letter home that I thought some of you might > > find interesting........ > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I have tracted through the area a couple times since I got here. And > > it is tough. A lot of apathy. Everybody is > > Catholic or Baptist. We tracted into a Baptist preacher last week. He > > liked us, but of course we are a cult. Well anyway he > > invited us to this Bible study. We watched him preach, then went into > > the (illegible word), and he tried to bash with us. I have > > come to new conclusions. The things he was saying were more ridiculous > > than ANYTHING I ever heard on Truth Talk. I am so > > grateful that we are not being led by the blind. This is one thing he > > said. > > > > I asked him, "Why would God create somebody to send them to Hell? > > Did he know that? > > > > Him: Of course. God is Holy, He is just. He knows everything. That > > person was CREATED to give Him glory by going to Hell. > > > > me: How's that??? > > > > Him: By proving that God is just. . . > > > > Send that to Dave. . . See what he thinks. Well I am out of room. I > > gotta go. > > love, Jeff > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dave Hansen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.langlitz.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If you wish to receive > things I find interesting, > I maintain Five email lists... > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > STUFF and MOTORCYCLE. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
