[TruthTalk] The passion of Christ

[Judy Taylor]

So true,

A believing friend I met yesterday was remarking how Christians are so "faddish" First it was the Prayer of Jabez, then the Purpose Driven thing, and now this Passion movie.  Over the weekend I visited a website that has the goods on C.S.Lewis; apparently he did the same in all of his books. He was into medieval history and paganism and there is occult symbolism in everything he wrote. As a young Christian I fell for it and brought his books into my home. Our son was very quickly drawn to the "so called" Christian mythology; he began with that and ended up heavily into D&D.  I now see it is all one and the same. Lewis and his friends Tolkien and Williams are  definitely not good news and their gospel is not the one "once delivered to the saints".

 

I hear you Kevin.............

 

 

This movie is LOADED with "HIDDEN" meaning!

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2002/carl-teichrib/5isis.htm

"Symbols are oracular forms–mysterious patterns creating vortices in the substances of the invisible world. They are centers of a mighty force, figures pregnant with an awful power, which, when properly fashioned, loose fiery whirlwinds upon the earth. —Manly P. Hall, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p.356. (A Freemason and influential occultist, Manly P. Hall was a leading figure in the quest for mystical knowledge.)

 

 

Occult Definition:

[n]  supernatural forces and events and beings collectively; "She doesn't believe in the supernatural" [adj]  having an import not apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence; beyond ordinary understanding; "mysterious symbols"; "the mystical style of Blake"; "occult lore"; "the secret learning of the ancients" [adj]  hidden and difficult to see; "an occult fracture"; "occult blood in the stool" [v]  hide from view; "The lids were occulting her eyes" [v]  become concealed or hidden from view or have its light extinguished; "The beam of light occults every so often" [v]  cause an eclipse of (a celestial body) by intervention; "The Sun eclipses the moon today"; "Planets and stars often are occulted by other celestial bodies"

http://www.gnosis.org/overview.html

Gnosis comes from a Greek word meaning 'to know' in the sense of 'to be acquainted'. Gnosis in a more specific religious sense refers to the knowledge of God and the fullness of the true spiritual realms through direct personal experience. Similar terms are jnana (Sanskrit) and ma'rifat (Arabic). A gnostic is someone who has had such an experience or who has been initiated into a tradition which provides access to such personal revelations. (Please note that as a term 'jnana' should not be confused with jnana yoga, which as a system of yoga is also concerned with the study of knowledge rather than the topic of gnosis as in 'direct acquaintance or experience. The true or 'sat' jnana, while it can be discussed or written about, has its real value in direct experience.)

 

So by these definitions, our LDS Friends are Gnostics & Occultists

Gnosis is not simply a synonym for mysticism, paranormal, occult, metaphysics, esoteric or knowledge. It is a distinct category of mystical experience.beyond the physical or psychic levels of being.

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > Went to the movies today for the first time
  > > in about twenty-five years.

  > > making me wonder how the full moon figured in the story.

  > It is historically accurate that there was a full moon on that night.

 

Judy:

It has nothing to do with history; this comes from astronomy and RC

Liturgy. There are two different calenders and some disagreement so

apparently they use astronomy/astrology to determine what day to

celebrate Pascha (see below quote from a French RC theologian)

quote:

 

"The Christian Church, apparently from Apostolic times, began to fix the

date of Pascha (Sunday) precisely in relation to light. For example, the

feast of the Nativity of Christ (IV c.) was fixed as December 25, the day

of the Winter solstice when sunlight begins to increase. (It was also a

pagan feast for the same reason.) As for the sacred day of Pascha, here

the moon also plays a part.  The Sunday of the year that falls immediately

after a full moon when it occurs not earlier than the vernal equinox is set

aside as the feast of Pascha.

  > Terry wrote:
  > > As He finishes praying, a large snake crawls up
  > > to him and He stomps on it's head.  At that point,
  > > I was ready to walk out, but I am glad I stayed.

 

Judy:

The more I research the less I see a connection between this film and

reality no matter what the masses say.

 

Yesterday I thumbed through a photo/book of the film at Walmart; 

At Gethsemane scripture says "he fell on his face" so I would never

picture him looking as though he were baying at a full moon. Also his

stepping on a snake sounds 'hokey' to me. The concept is a spiritual

one that this is inadequate to communicate.

 

I was also surprised to see Jesus and his apostles sitting on chairs

around a table like we use at what is supposed to be the Last Supper - 

even I know (without research) that they used to eat in a reclining

position on pillows. 

 

The clothing is also disturbing because women back then used to

adorn themselves by wearing ornaments on their clothing and their

garments were varied in color (remember Lydia in the book of Acts?).

In the Gibson movie the women are all in black chador like robes 

looking like a bunch of nuns and they have Jesus wearing this brown

raggedy thing on his way to Golgotha. Where is the one piece tunic

under the outer garment that he wore or even the purple robe they

put on him with the crown of thorns at the Courthouse? 

 

Kevin thank you for your input - IMO there is a whole lot going on here

that we are ignorant of because we have no frame of reference and we

need to be Berean or we will wind up like Israel not knowing our right

hand from the left and perishing for lack of knowledge. It's our God

given responsiblity to check these things by the Word of God.

 

Grace and Peace,

Judy

 

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