Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

[Dave]

Judy Taylor wrote: From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Deegan wrote: No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF. DAVEH:  Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews.  Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are suggesting the headers may be errant.    jt: Headers, chapter and verse divisions and all that are not and never were sacred text Daveh, so what's the problem? DAVEH:   The problem is some people may think it is part of the inerrant text.  I did.  I wonder if many of the KJVOnly folks do too?  And, from what DavidM said...... There are some 1611 King James folks who think that is inerrant. I think Kevin is in this camp. .......Perhaps Kevin believes such as well.  I'd sure appreciate Kevin commenting on this.  Which way do you believe, Kevin......Do you believe the headings are inerrant???   Daveh: I'm trying to figure out why so many TTers have been so opposed to me suggesting there may have been errors introduced into the Bible, when they agree that the headers were introduced in such a way.    jt: Possibly because you eat up every word in the BofM DAVEH:  I'm not sure why you would say that, Judy.  Do you recall me quoting any BoM words here?  (I have.....but only to specifically respond to questions regarding what the BoM says about a specific topic.)  and are totally uncritical of anything in it or anything having to do with the person of Joseph Smith DAVEH:  While you may have your suspicions, you really do not know whether I am uncritical or not of JS. For you to make that unsubstantiated claim does not make logical sense.  Though I am not here to defend or promote JS, it would not be prudent of me to criticize anything I might think about him to in this Forum.  What I may do or not do outside of this Forum is something you simply are not privy to, Judy.   And....Just because other TTers want to criticize JS or anybody else is not reason for me to jump onto their bandwagon even IF I were to have critical thoughts to offer.  who is very controversial and who never went to a sinner's cross for you. DAVEH:  What's that all about???  I've never considered JS a substitute for Jesus and his sacrifice of grace.  This comment simply puzzles me, Judy.   Daveh: If the headers may be errant, then it logically follows that at some point God stopped preventing errant material from being included in the Bible, Kevin.  Where do you think that point of time is drawn?   jt: The Bible isn't a kindergarten book Daveh and it's a closed book to some and open to others according to their heart attitude toward the author. DAVEH:  As I see it, you've got the two perspective switched around, Judy.  IMHO, it is those who think the Bible is inerrant and the heavens are sealed from further revelatory Scripture that have closed their ears to the Word of God. When ppl with no heart for truth begin trying to subject God's Word to their carnal reasoning, then God Himself sends STRONG DELUSION that they might believe the lie. DAVEH:  Care to explain that for those of us with a kindergarten mentality, Judy?  Are you suggesting God is deluding me into believing a lie? judyt   God allows the devil to raise up heretics to make his people study -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.