Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

Thu, 11 Mar 2004 16:55:08 -0800

Go ahead just wondering. I don't bite.

"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you interested, Kevin, or are you up to something else?
 
Bill
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

Did I miss the testimony of how you are becoming a christian? Maybe I overlooked it.

"Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
My fellow TTers,
 
I don't think it is as cut and dried as some of you are suggesting. I am aware of what was said concerning Judas. I believe those Words ask of us an interpretive task: How do we reconcile the limited things we know about the Judas event with the greater narrative of Christ? In my mind it still goes back to Christ, Who do you say that he is? Is Christ's calling of Judas greater than Judas' betrayal? Maybe these questions are bigger than proof texting can adequately address. I'm glad I peaked your interest. A really satisfying study on this very subject is Ray S. Anderson, The Gospel According to Judas: Is There a Limit to God's Forgiveness? (Pasadena: Fuller Seminary, 1994). The bottom line as I see it is this: There is no good reason for not believing in Jesus Christ. Yet for no good reason some will refuse to believe. And they may go to hell who refuse him. But we ought not point to God for this. The only way humans can perhaps change the destiny provided them in Christ's finished and perfected work, is to finally refuse their adoption in Christ. This grounds reprobation not in God's will but in our own. This "mystery of iniquity" does not originate from above; it finds its source and ground down here, somewhere close I fear, somewhere very close to home.
 
Thanks,
    Bill Taylor
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:55 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The only thing that sends Judas to hell,
then, is Judas, if indeed Judas finally rejected Jesus Christ.
That's how I read it. Bill
John:  Looks like a tie.   Bill is right.   We individually bear
the responsiblities for our sins.   Our demise, if in fact that is
the case, is our fault.   But judyt is correct also.   According
to Jesus, Judas did not make it.   He could have   --- but
apparently he did not.  Contribition that leads to suicide is
confusion, not confession (confess to one another so that
you may be healed). John
 
jt: Judas did confess to the sanhedrin that he had betrayed
'innocent blood' and he tried to give back the 30pcs of silver
It wasn't enough. He should have dealt with God. Too early
to go to the throne of grace in time of need but he could have
come to the temple with a sin offering.
 

judyt
 
God allows the devil to raise up heretics
to make his people study
 

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