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From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy says > Sounds to me like the issue is sanctification/holiness .... If you are meaning to communicate that Jesus will not come for a
messed
up sick, fragmented bunch who act like devils but claim to belong to Him, and that the Church He returns for will be �without spot, wrinkle, or blemish,� then it sounds to me like the issue is your Methodist upbringing. This is John Wesley through and through. Bill Taylor jt: I don't know about John Wesley, I don't read his
writings and
certainly never heard any of them in the Church I was
raised in.
The issue here is scriptural truth through and
through because
this is where I found it. What do you do with the
scriptures
below Bill? Do you cut them
out or explain them away? judyt
From: Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He comes to it? Just like TT, just like your local "garden variety" Baptist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Charismatic etc. Church. SOME IN THEM WILL be without spot or blemish (whatever that actually means). There is no "grand transformation" about to take place (either to TT or to the Churches). Lance This is what my KJV says Lance
"Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it that he might
sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish." Eph 5:26,27 Sounds to me like the issue is sanctification/holiness
Jesus was a lamb without blemish and without spot (1 Peter 1:19) Contrast Him with actual spots....
"These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption; for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage for if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them" (2 Peter 2:17-20) "These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts;
and
their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. " (Jude 16) |
