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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:41
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Subject: [TruthTalk] What will the Church
Look Like When..
From: "Wm. Taylor" <
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Judy says > Sounds to me like the issue is
sanctification/holiness....
If you are meaning to communicate that Jesus will not come for a
messed
up sick, fragmented bunch who act like devils but claim to belong to
Him,
and that the Church He returns for will be “without spot, wrinkle,
or
blemish,” then it sounds to me like the issue is your
Methodist
upbringing. This is John Wesley through and through. Bill
Taylor
jt: I don't know about John Wesley, I don't read his
writings and
certainly never heard any of them in the Church I was
raised in.
The issue here is scriptural truth through and
through because
this is where I found it. What do you do with
the scriptures
below Bill? Do you cut
them out or explain them away? judyt
From: Judy Taylor
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He comes
to it? Just like TT, just like your local "garden variety"
Baptist,
Lutheran, Pentecostal, Charismatic etc. Church. SOME
IN THEM WILL be
without spot or blemish (whatever that actually means).
There is no "grand
transformation" about to take place (either to
TT or to the Churches).
Lance
This is what my KJV says Lance
"Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it that he might
sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word, that
he
might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or
wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without
blemish." Eph 5:26,27
Sounds to me like the issue is sanctification/holiness
Jesus was a
lamb without blemish and without spot (1 Peter 1:19)
Contrast Him with actual spots....
"These are wells without water,
clouds that are carried with a tempest
to whom the mist of darkness is
reserved for ever. For when they speak
great swelling words of vanity, they
allure through the lusts of the
flesh
through much wantonness, those
that were clean escaped from them
who live in error. While they promise
them liberty, they themselves
are the servants of corruption; for of whom a
man is overcome, of the
same is he brought in bondage for if after they
have escaped the
pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord
and Savior
Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome,
the latter
end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been
better for
them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after
they
have known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them"
(2 Peter 2:17-20)
"These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts;
and
their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in
admiration because of advantage. " (Jude
16)
