David: surely I'm misunderstanding you. Re-phrase, re-visit, play it again
David 'cause I'm about to laugh out loud. Lance
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: April 01, 2004 13:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Covenant versus Contract


> John wrote:
> > Because I have changed my mind about sin does not
> > eliminate sin from my life
> > (Rom 7:25, I John 1:8 , Ro 3:23)
> >
> > Quoting other scriptures does not change the truth
> > expressed in those I offered to you.
>
> Romans 7:25 is a summation of what it is like for the unregenerated
> person living under the law.  Read Romans 7:1-6, pay special attention
> to the tense of Romans 7:5, "when we WERE in the flesh."  Compare it
> with Romans 8:4 which speaks of us not walking after the flesh.  Romans
> 7 for the most part describes a life of condemnation, which is not the
> normal Christian life.
>
> 1 John 1:8, likewise, must be taken in context.  He just got done saying
> in verse 7 that the blood of Jesus Christ "cleanses us from all sin."
> Clearly verse 8 in context is an answer to the objection that we don't
> need Jesus to cleanse us of sin.  It is like speaking to someone dirty
> who says, "I don't need a bath."  If I tell him that he does need a
> bath, that does not mean that he always needs a bath even after he has
> taken one.  Use some common sense here.
>
> Verse 10 keeps the context in check by using past tense, "if we say that
> we have not sinned..." That is the point.  Read on and learn that he
> that is born of God does not continue to sin.
>
> Romans 3:23?  Look at the tense again.  Past Tense.  All have SINNED,
> and because of that PAST SIN, we come [present tense] short of God's
> glory.  Now enters Jesus Christ who washes away our sins.  When Jesus
> washes away our sins, does he do a bad job and leave some on us?  Are we
> still fallen, dirty creatures after experiencing the grace of Christ?
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
>
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know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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