[TruthTalk] Doctrines of Men(Women?)/Demons

[Judy Taylor]

I do, Judy. I just don't think that you've apprehended Paul's meaning here. When I sat in a pew some decades ago listening to A W Tozer preach (one with not much more education than your Father) I never thought then nor now of being attentive to a man in the place of God.  For that matter neither do I attend to Paul over God. If you could make this latter distinction we could move on. Can you?   jt: What is Paul's meaning then if he is not applauding the Bereans for checking his own (Paul's) teaching by the WofG; this should apply to Tozer also. Incidentally it was my Father-in-law but in his case and Tozers when I hear someone speak on that level with understanding that can only come from God - I listen.  But when someone tries to impress with big words and complicated semantics.  Oh well!  To each his own.    Seriously, see if you can identify my meaning (God over Paul}.   jt: Lance I believe that ALL scripture is inspired by God, including what was written by Paul.   You don't have to agree with it. Just demonstrate that you get my drift. Lance   jt: I'm not sure that I do.   jt  From: Judy Taylor Do you believe Paul was walking after the Spirit when he made this statement?  This causes us to look to God rather than to men.  jt Lance: Here's the puzzle: He's not-He's in us-we are divided-go figure. Lance   jt: I've thought a lot about this, probably everyone who names the name of Christ has. I believe the Church is divided because we don't build upon Christ. We have accepted doctrines of men/demons and this is what we build upon which is especially evident on TT. If we were operating with the mind of Christ there would be a unity of faith evident here.   lance: Does one have to know these to write a sentence? Even a broken clock...Let's not celebrate NOT KNOWING "STUFF' Most everyone does something well even "weller" than others. How did they go from "not so well" to "well" Well, they worked at, studied (like J on his upcoming insurance exam)   jt: Agreed, this is why we are exhorted to "Study to show yourself approved unto God as a workman who needs not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth" Where do we find the Word of Truth  to study Lance?   It seems strange to me that when it comes to that which supercedes in importance everything else on earth we should denigrate those who "work to show themselves approved" (this is a misapplication of this Scripture but then, it kind' makes my point dun it?)  "Lance   jt: Yeah I think it does.  Only the ones you speak of are working on the wrong foudation. The foundation is Christ and He is not divided.  jt             jt:... has Jesus made his Word so complicated that noone can understand it? Does one have to be a Greek or a Greek scholar and know nouns, verbs, tenses? Makes no sense; if God is love and it's His will for all to come to the knowledge of truth.  Why would He be part of such a scheme?  So only the smart once can come....the educated ones, the ones who can afford college and books?  jt   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "No more than a pretext to put forth erroneous ideas. Appeal must be made beyond all Biblical, all ecclesiastical citations to the Truth of God Himself. For that (He) is the supreme authority to which (whom) all must submit and all must rely. Ultimately it is by reference to That truth that judgement must be passed upon the truth and error of our interpretations or formalizations (dogma/doctrine/beliefs growing out of Scripture itself). Good morning and blessings, Lance From: Judy Taylor SO THE HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT INSPIRE ANY OF OF GOD'S PROPHETS? FOLK - BELIEVE THAT AT YOUR OWN PERIL  .....     From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I never listen to Discouragers.  They are never Holy Spirit inspired. Izzy       On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/1/2004 6:40:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   I think the continuous case is appropriate here Thanks Bill.  Mounce gives the "ing" English endings for the present tense application in the book I have on page 352 I believe.  It was taught to me in first year Greek.  No one has ever questioned it before.  I will continue using it in the way I did.  The quote David offers from Mounce is exactly what I am saying.  Maybe I did not communicate that as I should have.   I don't know.  But thanks for the impute.     One other matter -- if any has any doubts or concerns about me because of Jim Elsman, feel totally free to off-list your concerns  ---  nothing to hide here.  Jim thrives on causing trouble.  I saved some of his "classics" from the past just in case he turned out to be someone who follows people around and does what he does.  You will note that I do not answer him  --  but he knows that if he says stuff often enough, some will listen.  He actually knows next to nothing about me.  He also loves to torment David Miller  --  more than me.   Just ignore it.  But I will gladly answer any concerns.   John