\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
 
OK, I'll start ...
 
The book of Yacov ... y'all probably still think this NT book was written by and named after 'James' ...
 
"Yacov, a servant of The Mighty One and of Adonay YahShua Messiah, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."
 
King Jimmy of 1611 was not a nice man (to put it very mildly).  It was very difficult to get him to agree to the translation work named in his honor.  The translators (credited far too highly than they ought) manipulated text at times to suit their purposes and theology (though still better than just about every other translation since then -- I personally prefer the exegeses version which is the only one I know of since KJV to stick to the same manuscripts as KJV that ALSO was translated by a Holy Spirit filled believer [as evidenced by his speaking in other tongues as The Spirit gave utterance] )!.
 
The book of Yacov was one of the bargaining chips to persway (teehee) his majesty.  I've heard it said that this was the one that finally swung him over to back the work.
 
"Yo, King, one of the writings in Scripture beareth thy name."
 
Yacov actually anglicizes to Jacob, but, HEY, the lie was for a good cause ...
 
The book of Yacov was the very first of the NT writings to be penned.  It used to be listed right up near the front, too ... got shuffled w-a-a-a-y back 'cause it was much too strong on its law and works TRUTH emphasis.  Ye ol' drunkard Luther even campaigned for its complete removal.
 
Now, NOTICE that in the very first words Yacov addressed this writing to the twelve tribes scattered abroad.
 
Who ever said the tribes of Ysrael were lost, anyway?  Yacov knew about them and where they were.  IT'S ALL IN THE BOOK, and right in the very opening of this NT book within THE BOOK!
 
So how's that for a start for ya, John, my comments covered greek discussions, personal observations, contextual comments (history, date, cultural applications, etc. ) as well as whatever comes to mind.  
 
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
 
Chris Barr
a servant of YHVH
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Sent: 04/10/2004 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud




Would this be any kind of an idea for this group:   Take a NT book  (Philip or James or Romans or whatever), start with verse one and each who are interested enter ideas and observations, no debate, and move to the next verse.   This would not be the only thread, but it would be a continuing one.   Those who are interested in the mono e mono stuff that goes on in lists such as this   (and folks, there are several other lists that I know of and they are all much worse than this list ever thought about being) could continue those threads and all could contribute to the "thus saith the Lord to me "  thread.  

The comments might include greek discussions, personal observations, contextual comments (history, date, cultural applications, etc. ) whatever comes to mind.  If Kevin and Barr and G could present their views in this format, I know I would be interested in their comments as well as all others on this list.   


John Smithson.  

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