In a message dated 5/3/2004 11:21:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

material.  Lest we forget, DavidM has good things to say about Elsman  -  a man who dispises Miller and treats him like a step-mom.

John


JOHN,
           YOU ARE A TROUBLE-CAUSING LOSER THAT DIVORCED AND GOT KICKED FROM PASTOR -LIFE AFTER 14 YEARS AS A SENIOR PASTOR.  YOU NOW ARE A COMMON WORKMAN, PLAYING WITH PRIVATE COUNSELING AT NIGHT.
             THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU, AND YOU DON'T EVEN GET ALONG WITH YOUR SONS. YOU ARE AN OBVIOUS GLUTTON, CONFESSING TO A WEIGHT OF 270 POUNDS ON A 5 FOOT FRAME.  LOW SELF-ESTEEM.
             DAVID MILLER AND I ARE OLD FRIENDS AND SHARE MOST OF THEOLOGY.   WE ARE BOTH WELCOME AT EACH OTHERS HOMES, AND HAVE SOCIALIZED IN THE PAST.  YOU ARE A LIAR AND TROUBLE-CAUSER.
            OF COURSE, WE LIKE TO DEBATE.
                 ---ELSMAN

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