I agree Izzy and this is what is so troubling to me.  The pastor had not dealt at all with the conman who is still in leadership as I write but he did talk to our son-in-law about examining his own motives.  I do see your point about his culpability.  At the start of the "business" venture my husband asked him if he was sure this was the way to go and his reply was that he thought it was because his partner was a "godly" man.  His partner didn't lose money on stocks or anything like that; he mishandled it, paying himself $8,000 per month before the business got off the ground and taking out a line of business credit on the quiet.  Thanks for sharing how God used similar circumstances in your life, I hope our son-in-law will be able to regroup without becoming embittered over this.  Noone keeping the wolf away from the door at that Church.  jt
 
From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Jt, it sounds like it’s time for the pastor to take the Amway-kinda-guy out to dinner and give him a printout of scriptures on repentance.  Also, I’m afraid your son shares some of the culpability.  I got “ripped off” like that once myself.  The lesson I learned from it was worth every dollar I lost. Izzy

 

jt:  Paul dealt with the man having an affair with his father's wife. Peter dealt with Annanias and Sapphira for lying about money. Paul wrote to Timothy telling him to deal with those who sinned before all so that they would learn to fear.  Our son-in-law has been conned and scammed out of tens of thousands of dollars by a person in Church leadership who has done the same thing to two other families and this person declared bankruptcy last week so the money is probably gone for good but the problem is still leading singing and teaching in the Church.  This must be a stench in God's nostrils just like perverted priests in the RCC.  These things ought not to be.  The pastor takes our son-in-law out to dinner and gives him printouts of scripture to look at and meditate on. John

how would you have handled something like this in your Church?  They talk about business and Church matters having to be separate etc. but our son-in-law never would have met this person or gone into business with him had he not been at this particular Church and made such a good showing after the flesh. His outward appearance is perfection, clean and pressed, brand name clothes, drives an Expedition; but he has an Amway mindset and the big break is always on the way - in the meantime he rips off God's people.  Is Church discipline the answer to this?





 

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