Re: [TruthTalk] Perichoresis

[Terry Clifton]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/28/2004 10:46:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In his theology, Gregory Nazianzus advocated the doctrine of the Trinity, including the full divinity of both Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. He emphasized that Jesus did not cease to be God when he became a man, nor did he lose any of his divine attributes when he took on human nature. He also proclaimed the eternality of the Holy Spirit, saying that the Holy Spirit's actions were somewhat hidden in the Old Testament but much clearer since the ascension of Jesus into Heaven and the descent of the Holy Spirit at the feast of Pentecost. =======================================================Does anyone here disagree with this??? Terry Actually, I do not agree with the part addressed in red.  It seems to me that Philip 2 is in contrast to the notion  that He did not forfeit any of His divine attributes when He became man.  There is no valid claim to victory for a God who cannot be tempted to have overcome sin and temptation, for example.   I personally believe that Christ dealt with this world as a man, becoming like us in every respect and thereby taking away our excuses.   His life puts to death our excuses  -- His death gives life to our destiny.  John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's interesting John.  I can see where He laid aside His riches to become poor.  I can see where He laid aside at least some of His power, His equality with the Father, in order to fully submit Himself to the will of the Father and become not only His son, but His servant and our sacrifice.  I can see where He took on some human attributes so that He could fully experience being hungry and thirsty and weary and in pain and temptation but I cannot see where He laid aside His diety for one moment.  I do not think that God can cease being God, and, meaning no disrespect, I fail to see what you see in these verses, Thirty-three years without sinning?  Most Humans can't go thirty-three minutes without sinning.  Jesus was no mere man. At least that's the way I see it.  Terry