Re: [TruthTalk] Eye of the Storm

[Judith H Taylor]

 

 

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:17:53 +0100 (BST) michael douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

jt said: Hi again Slade; I don't know about others but we do need to watch what comes out of our mouths as we have another Kingdom watching and waiting for a doorpoint of entry into our lives and God will not keep them out, this is our responsibility.

Michael D: I have to concur with Judy here 110%.  I have lived this for years... God dealt with me to such an extent, that there were times where in exasperation, I had to ask God whether there is anything I can say at all...  When I've share with believers things (even idioms and slangs) that they need to watch, they've frown on it or dismissed it as nonsense, and even rebuked me. Sometimes it's very humbling.

jt: At the ministry where we just spent a week the fruit of a person's mouth is important. Actually it reflects what is going on in the heart because "out of the abundance that fills the heart, the mouth speaks" but renewal of the mind must begin somewhere. The staff there would correct each other in love and if one got on a negative roll someone would usually say "don't talk like that"

The fact is, as Judy stated above, that  we are living in an enemy occupied territory, and his kingdom holds sway in the main. As a result, negatives/adversity have right of way, without much effort exerted.  When folks utter negative things, it's easy for that to be enforced in their circumstances.

jt: True - Fear and Faith are equal in the spiritual dimension and both demand to be fulfilled.

For positive results, however, one has (as a rule) to have a greater opposing effort of positive inputs (faith)  to overthrow the negative forces holding sway... Words are spirit. Jesus said His words were spirit and life.  THat tells me that his words took on an additional characteristic to spirit, i.e. life. 

jt: Exactly - I remember "Sing them over again to me wonderful words of life" which I used to sing at the Methodist Church before I had any idea what I was singing about.

Proverbs tells us that death and life are in the power of the tongue. So as words can be spirit and life, they can also be spirit and death. Let me share an example...  <snip>  One guy said that his foot was killing him, having knocked it. Figurative in his mind, of course, but he does not realize that he is realeasing a concept in the spirit world (killing him) that the enemy would like to sieze upon. Keep saying those things long enough, and the enemy will try to capitalize on them.

jt: Thanks for the testimonies Michael - All I know is that I would much rather be blessed than cursed and who we are in agreement with carries a lot of weight. I don't subscribe to magic or New Age concepts.  Neither do I want to agree with the devil in any area and since he is so deceitful we need to stay alert.

Thank God for the Holy Spirit who guides us into truth. I try to be very careful about the things I say now. I do not say when it rains... I now seek to determine how much it rains whenever it rains.  Storms like Ivan I would never refer to as 'Ivan the terrible' regardless of how much it is doing, and how much the media trumpets that. The enemy will have a field day with that. I seek to oppose that.  As true children of God our lot is to determine outcomes not have them imposed upon us. Have I always prevailed, no, but I know where I want and need to be by God's grace...

jt:  I hear you Michael. It has been a rude awakening for me to come out of a loving and faith filled enviroment and be exposed to TV for the first time. The prejudices two programs conveyed stuck out "like a sore thumb" and both were against fatness and fat people something that is also reflected in our society at large.   judyt

slade says: Hello to you too, Judy. I still am referring to idioms. If you are referring to idioms we are in irreconcilable disagreement.

jt: I have no idea what "granite like faith" would look like but nowhere in scripture do I see God blessing unbelief and doubt.

slade says: I am referring to "knowing without a shade of doubt." I see faith [or at least a strong form of it perhaps] as being a Spiritual gift given to some but not all. Someone with weaker faith than another is not in sin because of his lack of faith. In a similar vein, one person having less discernment than another is not in sin because of his lack of discernment. We all need to lift each other up where we are strong and get our strength from others where we are weak. This includes discernment as well as faith.

slade continues: I really hope my analogy between weak faith and weak discernment is understood because I really don't want to dwell on THAT topic as well. I tend to quickly dismiss a topic when there is no connection/understanding between me and the other person.

jt said: Even Jesus Himself could do no mighty works in his hometown because of their unbelief.

slade says: A little limiting but that's ok. You don't believe in the Deity of Messiah Yeshua, do you? (I.e., Do you believe Jesus is God)?

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