RE: [TruthTalk] Eye of the Storm

[michael douglas]

Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's unbelievable how this concept is not getting through. Let me give an example or two to express my meaning.

 

Jan said to John, "Quit beating around the bush!" Let me ask you a question... Was John ACTUALLY beating around the bush or was he verbally not getting to the point?

Slade said, "I'm all ears!" Is Slade a walking pair of ears or is he listening intently?

 

A visual will help with that answer, Slade.. :-)

 

GOT IT?????

Anyway, that would be bad in a situation where the 'eyes' (aye's) have it!!!  Oh, oh, I guess I'm getting 'corny' here... sorry guys....

Michael D: Hey Slade, I guess If I had use text as huge as yours above in my clarification on the idioms e-mail, you would not have had to indulge...  

Anyway I will try and repeat for you. I do use idioms and colloquialisms etc, but I am careful to avoid ones, or terms in them, that embody concepts  contrary to my position and covenant in Christ (I'll resist the urge to enlarge that statement :-) )    Does that make sense, Slade?

Again,  I will not say that some part of my body, or anything for that matter, is killing me. That's careless speech. I don't want to release that concept in reference to myself. That's the enemy's playground. I seek to avoid terms like I am 'sick' of something/someone, or that someone makes me sick. Again, that is releasing raw material into the spirit realm that references me contrary to my covenant in Christ. The enemy seeks to enforce those things.

'Beating around the bush' does not reference contrary to Christ's covenant (as far as I can tell) so I might say that.

Can you see a difference there?

The principle is that our words, particularly when repeated over time, cut a track for the enemy to run on. They can give him licence to operate. As Proverbs says, they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.  I won't impose another example on you folks, but I have seen the most innocuous utterances repeated over time do have big consequences.

 

 

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:26:09 -0400 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Michael D: When I've share with believers things (even idioms and slang) that they need to watch, they've frown on it or dismissed it as nonsense

 

I am one who disagrees with you. Our Master and King used idioms when He was walking the Earth and Our Father in Heaven used idioms (even gross ones from our standards) in his dealings with the Prophets. An idiom is just that... a flowery _expression_. Nothing more.

 

jt: I'm not understanding what you refer to here Slade - when/where did Jesus the Word of God ever speak a "flowery _expression_" that was an idiom and nothing more?  Why did Jesus say it is by our words that we are justified and by our words we are condemned? Is this a powerless idiom or do these words mean what they say?

 

To advocate for more is to advocate error... in my (apparently singular opinion on this forum)... and I'm OK with that. I will say this, however, Michael... you are in good company because a good friend of mine (Don) believes identical to you on this point.-- slade

 

jt: I would be the last one to advocate "magic, or New Age thinking" However, IMO this is a very important principle. God is a God of His Word and Israel because of their own choices were forced to learn this the hard way.  Since our purpose in life is to be conformed to the image of Christ who in turn is the "image of Father God" our words should be words of character and integrity. My husband and I are presently staying with family members who are nominal Christians and I am observing the use of words to manipulate a high maintenance child. I believe these words will bear some rotten fruit causing further bitterness and hardness in the life of this child which is very sad.    judyt

 

 

 

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