RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?

[Hughes Jonathan]

Jonathan in green.   Jonathan Hughes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY? Izzy in red:   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hughes Jonathan Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?   If you knew 'research' I would think you would be able to find the web address to the constitutional party :) Jonathan you should know by now that I prefer whenever people are quoting scriptures OR websites that they include that information in their post, rather than making other people look them up. It is common courtesy.     You can take it up with Kay if you think she was being discourteous.  Sigh.    The fact that you are not interested in human rights is perhaps the most appalling thing I have ever seen in print by you.  If you think God is not interested in human rights you serve a much different God (read Satan) than I do. I hope you are not confusing human rights with humanism.  Either way it demonstrates a sick opinion.  If you continue to hold this line you will have to admit that abortion (read baby-killing) is a good thing.  No human rights for them!  Genocide is wonderful; no human rights for them!  Killing Iraqi civilians is fun; no human rights for them.  Sick, Izzy, sick. Jonathan, One more instance of your assuming evil about another rather than the opposite. (A sin by the way.)  I don’t go searching our MY idea of human rights, and then make my politics agree with that. I learn GOD’s idea of right and wrong which is always better for all humans involved than man’s idea of what are “human rights”.  Wouldn’t you agree???  Does God believe that babies should die?  Does God believe that innocents should be slaughtered?  How about agreeing with God then?  Anyway you read it Izzy you are dead wrong. By the way I in no way deny my sin.  That I have been very harsh on you is no secret to anybody.  Seeing a beautiful Christian mom support a man who is quite different than she thinks he is gets my goat.   Suggestion of the day:  Call the CP national office or Nader's group.  Their telephone numbers are on their web sites.  Ask them whether voting for a party that will not win is 'wasting' or 'throwing away' a vote.  Ask them whether you should just stay home.  You will be surprised by their answer. I sincerely doubt that. Izzy  Read the article Kay mentioned on the CP site refering to this topic.  Open your mind. Jonathan Hughes  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY? You are speaking to a nurse who is married to a doctor (who by the way does a lot of “research”).  I think I know how to “research”.   I love the way you accuse others of “indoctrination”.  Reminds me of a story about a splinter and a log….Izzy  PS I’m not interested in “human rights”.  I’m interested in what God says is right.  That’s why I’m on The Right. J   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?   Kay has a list of issues she is looking at.  Using those issues it would be highly unlikely that she would choose Bush.  But even if she does she will at least have done her homework; something you need to spend weeks doing 1) just to get rid of the indoctrination you have been going through, 2) learning how to do the research and 3) using God’s word to guide you on the most important issues all which revolve around human rights.   Jonathan “why am I writing this at 2:45AM” Hughes   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?   Jonathan, What if she chooses Bush? J Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?   Hi John,   I guess it is obvious that Izzy has me going today.  I just am so fed up with someone claiming something and refusing to actually look into the details.  You are right: I am so cotton-picken upset because I do accept Linda’s claim to be a Christian.  To me that is not in doubt at all.  I just cannot fathom how one can believe as she does in light of the vast majority of evidence that accurately portrays Bush to be far other than she suspects.  I have wracked my brain for weeks regarding how to get Izzy to pick up a book, read a website or do anything that may help her learn something outside the ideological box she has constructed for herself.  I believe it is extremely important and obviously am very passionate regarding it.  If I didn’t care about Izzy (or Judy) I wouldn’t bother.  The breath of fresh air today was brought about by Kay.  She nicely put down a list of concerns that are important to her and wants to study the candidates to see which one comes into line with the majority of them.  That is thoughtful Christianity worked out.  Marvelous.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who to Vote for, and WHY?   In a message dated 9/22/2004 4:27:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you on this forum to discuss or just belittle those that disagree with you as ‘liberals’?  Once again either put up or shut up.   Jonathan !!  Go easy.   What is interesting to me in this discussion is the fact that you accept Linda's claim to be a Christian   ---   that is why you are getting so cotton-picken upset.    If Linda does not respect your opinion in this, or the notion that you are a liberal, that is to her detraction.   Whether I agree with some of what you say, I personally respect you because   --   and only because  --  I consider you a brother.   Others on this list feel the same, I am sure.   So relax and enjoy the exchange of ideas.  You are not alone.   If she doesn't get it (and I am not saying that she doesn't), well, she doesn't get it.  Right? a  friend, John Smithson       This e-mail and any attachments contain confidential and privileged information. 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