Izzy,
A week and a half ago
David Miller emailed me asking me to take over the moderator position on this
forum. Surprised I sent back an email to him asking why me when it is
obvious that most of my views are disregarded and considered heretical.
He wrote back that I took the discussions seriously and that Truthtalk is very
much in need of a serious person taking the reins. I agree with
David. While I declined the opportunity for a number of reasons I did
tell him that I would attempt to move the subject matter to a serious
discussion. This morning I sent out a very serious post asking why
people will vote for their respective candidate. It included a number of
the issues accompanied by biblical passages referring to them. Instead
of taking it seriously you wrote back a silly little email saying that we
should rename the forum PoliticalTalk. I am sick of your political
fa�ade and today I decided not to stand for it anymore. You display such
marvelous talents at so many things but when it comes to politics you refuse
to think at all. When questioned, critiqued or even looked at you hide
behind a mask that pretends to be informed but really is ignorant. When
it comes to politics you won�t even consider them in light of the Bible.
It is astounding.
When you still
refused to think (or even go to google and type in constitutional party!) I
took one of the issues you kept putting forward in favour of Bush:
abortion. I have given you lots of evidence that Bush does not view
abortion the same way you do. While he may disagree with it to bring in
a few voters, in reality he has supported it with the legislation he put
through. I ask the question again: What does it matter if Bush is
against abortion but works for it in the White House and has publicly stated
he will not even attempt to make it illegal? If abortion was the only
issue one could vote for Kerry or Bush. Both will do exactly the same
thing: support if financially (as Bush has already done to the tune of half a
billion dollars!) and not take steps towards outlawing it. Now that you
are aware of this what will you do? We can move onto other issues if you
like. What will it take to get you to think through why you are voting
for Bush (or Kerry or whoever it may be)? The decision of who the next
president of the USA is perhaps the most important decision to be made this
decade. Keep in the back of your mind: when you put an X next to Bush�s
(or Kerry�s) name in 6 weeks you doom many more babies to die. When it
comes to politics ignorance is not bliss.
Jonathan
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Izzy,
Stop
running.
Now that you know
what Bush actually thinks about abortion do you still support him? If so
why. If not why? Do you agree with what Bush has done in the White
House for abortion? Do you think he should be supporting organizations
that approve of abortion?
Are you on this forum
to discuss or just belittle those that disagree with you as �liberals�?
Once again either put up or shut up.
Jonathan
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Jonathan, We will not
discuss anything until you calm down. Right now you are not appearing to
be open to any reasoning at all. Izzy
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More stuff on Bush
and abortion. Izzy, do you still feel the same way about Bush after
reading this? Does abortion really matter to you?
And while
we are on the subject of abortion, President G.W. Bush signed legislation in
2002 that increased funding for International Family Planning to the tune of
$480.5 million making this Republican-led administration the biggest supporter
of international baby butchery in U.S. history. That is not to mention the
millions of dollars that Bush has approved for America's largest abortion
provider, Planned Parenthood.
Recently,
many "pro-lifers" heaped voluminous praise upon Mr. Bush when he decided to
withhold a miniscule (by comparison) $34 million in federal funds from UNFPA
(a UN abortion agency in China). What these ignorant (or deluded) "pro-lifers"
failed to notice was that Bush redirected that $34 million to USAID Child
Survival Health Program Fund. This fund includes money for "forecasting,
purchasing, and supplying contraceptive commodities and other materials
necessary for reproductive health programs."
In other
words, all President Bush did was play the old shell game by taking $34
million from one pro-abortion agency and giving it to another pro-abortion
agency. As American Life League President Judy Brown said, "These
'contraceptive commodities' are nothing but abortion-inducing chemicals that
kill the very children that the fund claims to help."
Jonathan Hughes
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Interesting. Why
don�t you post their website? While I�m VERY sure that we MUST have a
Republican House, Senate, and President to help us overthrow the liberals who
are re-writing the Constitution, I wonder who I would vote for if we did not
have a godly Presidential candidate like we have now. For instance, as much as
I admire Rudi Guiliani, I could not vote for him as he supports abortion and
gay marriage. So I�d like to see what�s out there brewing on the horizon
as far as alternatives in the future, if needed. Izzy
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Well, I've just been
reading the CP site and I like what they say. Not that I believe any
politician, mind you. :) BUT...there's information on what they think of
marriage, family, gambling, life, gun control, etc. and I tend to agree with
them on most issues. I've checked out how many CP registered voters there are
and it seems the numbers are growing. People are getting tired of the
things that are going on and are beginning to take a stand. I'm
especially tired of there not being any rights in our court rooms and of
Constitutional rights being violated on a daily basis. That's why I checked
into the CP; it's something that concerns me.
But, I'm certainly no
expert on politics, or on voting. I read up on the Libertarian Party as well,
and I just simply can't support many of their
platforms.
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for, and WHY?
Good for you
Kay. As Izzy illustrates below, putting some thought into who to vote
for is usually considered a rather ungodly and anti-american thing to do on
this forum. For the record I would seriously consider voting for
Smithson.
Jonathan
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No, actually, I'm
just wondering what others' thoughts were. I'm not in to politics. I
understand the concept of throwing away a vote by not voting either Democrat
or Republican, however, if enough people vote a different party, then it
wouldn't be throwing it away. Seems to me from what I've read that the
Constitutional Party has many of the same beliefs I have, as well as many
other Believers. My mind is not definitely made up, but I am seriously
considering voting for that party.
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Why not just stay
home, rather than go to the polls to throw away your vote? Or were you
thinking of writing in Smithson? Izzy
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I'm just
wondering if anyone has ever thought of not voting the "normal"
Republican or Democrat way...and voting for another party completely.
Any thoughts?
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