Well spoken, Jeff.
 
I was going into politics in Denver Colorado back in the 80s. As I delved into the system and watched those who would be my [political] peers, I noticed a disturbing trend............................
Most of  the men and women enter the foray with wonderful intention. They planned to change this and that and to make the county, state, or Federal Government a better, happier place. Unfortunately one thing stood in each and every person's way. MONEY.
 
Money is needed to run a campaign. All this money -- even money from private institutions and individuals -- come with strings attached. The really big money have hawser [really big rope] attached. If a candidate who wins does not keep the promises attached as "riders" to this money, there is no money for the next campaign. Also there's the scandals that suddenly appear against candidates who vote their conscience and not the "riders."
 
Those who manage to begin change either die on the altar of political shame or they.... die.
 
-- slade
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff Powers
Sent: Monday, 27 September, 2004 20.28
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

I'm breaking a self-imposed silence regarding this thread.  I think Terry is the only one making any sense of this can of worms!
    Politicians, both believers and non-believers are little more than puppets of special interest groups. Not since before the American Civil War has politics and Government been anywhere close to being legitimately By, For and Of the People! The framers of our constitition saw the truth in the sages words,"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."  That is the reason that they wrote the Constitution the way they did, when govt. becomes corrupt, it is up to the people to put down the corruption. The original constitution saw no need for a federal military as we know it today. Consequently, we were free and obligated by that Constitution to overthrow a corrupt govt. But, by the time of the Civil War Americans had given up that right! A result of this apathy was the USA then had a govt. police force (the military) to do the bidding of the rich and powerful privledged few who then pulled the strings of the politicians. Our rights have continually eroded away to the point that we are now at the mercy of the rich and powerful puppet masters that control the govt., if We The People demanded an abolition of the current govt. and revolted as was our right(it's no longer possible, the A. Lincoln administration and the congress of that day saw to it that we cannot toss out the govt. and start anew) we could possibly correct the system.
    That being now impossible, I see no reason for us to fool ourselves into beliving that we can make a difference. Look at the last Presidential election (and for those of you old enough, remember Dewey beat Roosevelt!,& Lincoln and Douglas), now how can anyone tell me they honestly belive in this corrupt system? 
    Personally, I belive God can, does and will use anyone, believer or not,(hey, even human or not; Baalam's Donkey!) to achieve His desired outcome.  Believers need to quit arguing about politics and get back to God's buisness and word. Remember, another sage said,"Politics and Religion do not mix."
Jeff
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The Republican party is anything but the party of God.  Why do you want to keep Jesus locked up in a church house when the world needs to hear about him?  Would it be terrible if a president who claims to be a tool of God promoted that same God to unbelievers?  Would that be peddling, or testifying?

Honest well thought out answers please.
Terry


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