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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: November 16, 2004 13:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Self-deception > John wrote: > > Could it be that KB expresses that which Lance believes? > > David, you might try responding to those words, included > > by Lance, and see what Lance has to say rather than resorting > > to the kind of criticism, disguised as honest (no doubt) advice., > > as is recorded above. You the Teacher -- Lance the elementary > > student is not condusive to meaningful debate. > > I did respond to the first sentence, John. The problem with responding to > what someone else wrote are numerous. They include: > > 1. Oh, but I don't agree with everything he wrote. > > 2. I don't think he meant that. What he means to me is ... > > 3. How dare you insult the greatest theologian who ever lived! > > 4. You are such an idiot to disagree with someone so great as ... > > And the list goes on and on. In Lance's case, I am certain to insult a > favorite theologian of his and the discussion would become emotional and go > nowhere. > > This list is not about discussing what others have written. We allow some > latititude for people to quote others, either as an authority for what they > believe or as some kind of supportive explanation, but this list is > primarily for discussing views which each of us hold. My comments were > meant to help Lance keep on this track, and your comments detract from the > purposes for which this list was designed. Those who want to read others > are free to browse and surf the web. This forum is for discussing views > between people who have viewpoints that they want to discuss. It is > especially for divergent viewpoints with a wide variety of world views and > opinions. It is a place where you can challenge other people's views and > have your own viewpoint challenged. This provokes study and an examination > of hidden assumptions that we all make in our reasoning process. > > John Smithson wrote: > > In view of such statements as "Such a viewpoint is anathema. > > It denies the gospel. It denies the righteousness of Christ," > > why would Lance do anything in terms of response except > > to say "I repent" and why would you want to continue a > > discussion with one who is so clearly (by your judgment) > > outside the revelatory will of God? > > Wow, you really have no latitude for people disagreeing with one another and > discussing differences. Sometimes people do change their minds. I have > many times. > > The response Lance might have to my comments is varied. He might say that > he agrees with my analysis, that it is anathema to say that men cannot > receive the Spirit of God and become faithful to God and to each other. On > the other hand, if he did think it is impossible for men to be faithful to > others and to themselves, he might realize that we have a serious point of > disagreement here and know that we need to discuss it further. My point is > that depending on how the sentence is interpreted, we might have exact > agreement or we might be miles apart. We have to start somewhere and I was > trying to make my position clear. > > Why do you have such a hard time with people being clear and exact about > their positions? In my opinion, being clear makes the discussion easier, > but there will be no discussion if the other party has no arguments for his > position. > > As for why I would want to discuss with someone outside of God's will, well, > that is because this is what God has called me to do. As for Lance, > however, you AGAIN <sigh> clearly misread what I wrote because I do not > consider Lance to be "clearly ouside the revelatory will of God." > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
