In a message dated 11/20/2004 5:50:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jonathan wrote:
>John is an excellent example of this.  He has come to know
>Lance and Bill by being changed by them.  This involves a
>great deal of intimacy that the scientific method lacks.


By the way, exactly how has John been changed by Bill and Lance?� What was
the problem before he met them, and what is the change in him now that he
has intimately come to know them?


David,  I think Jon's assessment of Smithson's change should be accepted at face value in the light of several posts by Smithson dealing in detail with this subject.  I am surprised that you would decide to argue this point.  

Smithson

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