David:I picked up on what BT said and, may have been wrong on this. Perhaps Slade's illustration is more applicable.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: December 03, 2004 17:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Trapped in the Flag > Lance wrote: > > David: Do you know what the 'bate and switch' > > tactic is in retailing? Can you see how it just might > > be applied to what you did here? > > Yes, I am familiar with the bait and switch tactic in retailing. No, I do > not see how this might be applied to what I did here. > > We were discussing the founding fathers. Bill argued, "they did not obey > God, neither did they submit to their governing authorities." I responded > with reference to the Declaration of Independence as evidence that they were > not the rebels that Bill characterizes them to be. I also made the point > that the success of establishing a nation is evidence that God was behind > what was done. Then Bill responded with the following: > > Bill Taylor wrote: > ----------------- > My the lengths to which we'll go to justify an action -- Newton would be > proud! > > ". . . the outcome of the establishment of this nation as independent from > the other indicates God approved and sanctioned it." > > This sounds very deterministic, not to mention definitive, David. Did Allah > give you these words Himself? :>) In your reading of history have you > distinguished the intent of the Virginians over against that of the New > Englanders (themselves for the most part being staunch Federal Calvinists, > just a short step removed from both deism -- and Allah)? It seems to me that > those "men who truly understood submission AND the need for government" > (emphasis added) may have blinked at just about the most inopportune times. > But I guess you probably gathered that from my very simplistic presentation. > -------------------- > > I don't understand this emotional outburst or what he is trying to > communicate. The most factual and rational thing I could extract from this > post was that he believed that the founding fathers "blinked" at inopportune > times, meaning, I suppose, that they missed opportunities to remedy the > problems through peaceful means. So I asked for examples of this. I don't > see how this is "bait and switch." I am only asking him to support his > assertion. > > If you see it otherwise, go ahead and explain. Do not assume that everyone > sees this the same way as you do. Also understand that I cannot read > between the lines of Bill's posts as well as someone like you because I have > a different world view than he does while you and he share similar world > views. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
