David, Please define what the sin in the Garden of Eden was? Attempt to do it without using the words autonomy or individualism. Then define what Lucifer's sin was. Then figure out the difference between unity in diversity and autonomy. They are not equivalent. Consider co-humanity instead of an individual (See the opening chapters of Genesis). Consider the 'One and the Many' concept that Bill has shared with us before. Actually define autonomy and individualism, then define the gospel and you will see (hopefully as this is a grievous error that will influence much of your theology) how non-compatible they are. Ask yourself who the autonomous individual is subject to? Answer: no one.
You also fall for a belief that if something succeeds than it must have God's blessing. This shows up in a lot of your writings. It is one of the few reasons you give for America being in the place it is today. Success is not history's proof of God's blessing. Go deeper. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Individualism Lance wrote: > Autonomy? Individualism? > Both are celebrated in your 'documents'. > Neither is compatible with the gospel. Your argument here is exactly the argument made by the English rulers for anyone leaving the "Church of England" to form congregational churches. The founding fathers of this country captured truths concerning individualism and freedom that the clergy of the churches missed. Open your eyes and see. Has not Providence been with what these men did? How can such be denied? History has affirmed the truth of it, a history through which only God can speak and not man. Autonomy and individualism is very compatible with the gospel. Our God is not a God of uniformity, but a God of unity in diversity. Just look at Creation. God made man male and female. Why? Diversity. Individualism. Unity through complementary function rather than through uniformity. Look at the multitude of species he created among the animals and plants. Peace be with you. David Miller. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.797 / Virus Database: 541 - Release Date: 11/15/2004 ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
