David, thanks for your response and for the candid nature in which you wrote
it. I will be preparing a reply; however not tonight, as I want to address
one of your points in detail. The wind is supposed to blow really hard
tomorrow; if it does, I will be home and can work on it then.

Bill

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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Off Topic


> Bill Taylor wrote:
> > David, quite often people say things with which I disagree,
> > but I do not take issue with them on every occasion that
> > this happens.
>
> Same here.  I walk by this rule.  On this forum, however, I am more likely
> to discuss minute differences because that is what this forum is best
suited
> for.  I do not look for fellowship or friends through email.  I look to
have
> scholarly discussions about truth, especially with people who I would
> probably never be friends with (like Pagan Wolf), and also with people who
I
> would be very friendly with, but probably would not be found ministering
> unto the Lord with (like Dave Hansen).
>
> Bill Taylor wrote:
> > What is it that would make you think we
> > don't know you?
>
> Because of the misunderstandings of my message that you guys express in
your
> posts, and your general rejection of me based upon false ideas of what I
am
> trying to communicate.  Invariably, the subject we discuss is dismissed
and
> put in place of it is the process of maligning my character or calling
into
> question my own perceived place in the body of Christ.  Either that, or
> there is just some emotional reaction of just ceasing communication.  And,
> of course, all of this is all my fault from the perspective of you guys
> because I don't try and chitchat in a way that establishes some kind of
> superficial sense of trust between us.  Despite your words of theology to
> the contrary, it seems very clear that if I don't play the worldly game of
> being friendly and loyal to you first and then discussing any differences
in
> a very polite way, you cut off relationship with me.  What you don't
realize
> is that from my perspective, this system of relationships that you guys
are
> trying to pull me into is something I consider very ungodly.  I strongly
> believe that I have a duty to seek the honor that comes from God alone and
> not the honor that comes from men.  This does not mean that I consider
> relationships unimportant.  It simply means that I have a different
> perspective of the right kind of relationships and how they are forged.
>
> John Smithson in the not too distant past has expressed some idea that my
> life is characterized by rejection from nearly everyone and he has used
that
> erroneous perspective as some kind of leverage to try and get me to hear
him
> concerning the idea that I am communicating all wrong.  The fact that I am
> accepted by many and have many very long term friends and that I am
> appreciated by so many makes such statements by him kind of hollow in my
> ears.  I know that he simply does not know me and speaks from his own
> misperceptions about me and my life, partly because email can never fully
> express who I am.  Is it any wonder that I conclude that he simply does
not
> know me?  His perception of me is based entirely upon misunderstanding my
> words, just as an atheist might read the Bible and reject God based upon
his
> misunderstandings of what is written there.
>
> I ought to point out, however, that I do not consider that those on
> TruthTalk who do understand many of my messages really know me.  For
> example, although Izzy seems to have been tutored by the same teacher as
me,
> I would not say that we really know each other.  I have met her on several
> occasions, but our contact has been so limited that I do not believe we
> really know each other.  I think the same way about Terry.  I don't know
> anybody on the list who "knows me" except maybe my oldest daughter who
might
> be joining the list after her final exams end.  :-)  I have been
discussing
> some of the topics with her and she seems very interested in participating
> if she can make the time for it.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
> p.s.  It is interesting to me that I have much more profound differences
> with someone like Dave Hansen, who is a Mormon, yet our discussions have
> always been very amiable and interesting.  He has caused me to read more
> books and has provoked me to more study than almost anyone else on the
list.
> Although his participation has been somewhat limited in recent times,
> perhaps we should look to Dave Hansen as an example of how to communicate
> via this forum.  :-)
>
>
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know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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