Re: [TruthTalk] The right way to get to the truth

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thinkin' out loud for you, Bill..   ..truth includes the statement 'this (or that) is false'   (iow, the comment 'this is false' may indeed be true!)   true love actually says 'this is false', 1) rather than 'this is true' (while it's 'false'), and, 2) says it clearly (somehow) rather than saying nothing at all..   ..so, while studyg Scripture, basically, the Word/s of God, a v consistently true love is realizd..unlike any othr..   (E.g.) true love is (e.g.) as 1 Cor 13 reports; (consistently) it is also  (e.g.) as Matt 23 reports   and both the Ap Paul and Matt report (it) consistently elsewhre..   E.g.:   ..earlier in Matt's Gospl this dialog evolvd:   Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, [no doubt in a diff tone of voice than in Matt23] "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."   The respnse "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God..." and "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.." had a v special, truthful meaning with certain implications--Jesus, willfully, simultaneously effectg Mosaic leadership, obligated himself to love God as only God's Messianic Son could love, also, to love the questioner as only God, the Messiah himself, could love   One (of JCs) implications here, given the question/er, is that he himself makes the Commandment/s 'Great' ; also, that all the law and the prophets 'hang' on t/his 'greatness'   However, Matt's report, abv, is no diff in Matt 23: virtually th (relatively same syllogistic) msg with certain implications delvrd in a much diff tone of voice: '..one is your Father, which is in heaven.' (You shalt love the Lord..) '..one is your Master, even Christ.' (the Christ is the Lord) '..the greatest among you shall be your servant.' (you shall love the Christ, the servant of you, by servg <--an implication rootd in a literary double entendre)..   (gotta go--to a two man a logging operation, fellg several pine tress and remvg them for a local church..)       On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 06:50:00 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yeah, you've put your finger on the same pulse that beats at me. You may be right, too. But I rather think of truth as more an emergent property of relationships. Take away the relationship and truth scoots out from under you. Another way of saying it would be something on the order of truth being communal property. As community grows truth is refined and clarified, kind of like what we're doing -- but where the community fails the property is lost.   Anyway, thanks for the input. I'll ponder on it.