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And do not forget the Pharisees called Yeshua "Rabbi".
Had Yeshua not ben a respected rabbi they would never have called him that. Just
another bit of semitic semantics for ya all to consider! I know your churches
fail to teach this very fine point, but those of semitic mindset would quickly
and easily recognise this!
jeff
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Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004
14:47
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always
rational?
We have evidence that Yeshua gained disciples of the
Pharisaic ilk (there;s that word again), for Nakdimon/Nicodemus was one such
adherent. In fact, he [Nakdimon, AKA Buni] was considered an apostate because
of his belief in Yeshua in later Judaic writings. Certainly he was not the
only one for the book of Acts says that no t even Pharisees but also those of
the Priestly caste believed. Out of the broad stroke understanding of the
different sects of Judaism, I know of only one that appreciated
Hellenism... the Sadducees. In fact, the Highest ranking official of the day
said, "Let one man die so that the whole nation can survive." How Hellenistic.
A Pharisee would have tried to figure out how to keep every part of the nation
alive.
So put that in your myth pipe and
smoke it! :)
--slade
Also, when I say, "like" I don't mean in a static
"Oh, yeah. He's a nice guy. Now I'm off on my merry way." I mean it more in an
active manner. They would have engaged Him in conversation (NT evidence
exists, though misinterpreted as a "trap" as opposed to a "test"), they would
have eaten with Him (NT evidence exists), and they would have allowed him
Synagogue participation (NT evidence exists).
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Saturday, 11 December, 2004 22.59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth
always rational?
myth (the summary sweep, below, conveniently omits
referenc/s to key historicl, exegetical, literary, and theologicl data
[e.g., one of your arguments is that HH, or members
of HH, 'liked' JC--so what? what does it really mean?--does it mean that
P/HH had nothin' to do w/ PaxR, below? the NT is v consistent about JCs terms of
discipleship..th disciples prob 'liked' JC..how do NT authrs
portray whom JC sought? but, when Pharisees approach JC in the
NT, is there evidenc that any were advancd to his
inner circle? aside from mayb Nicodms/Jn3, it appears that Pharisee
'approachs' were always layg traps (against any insurgnc, e.g.,
Jn9, not only for JC)..lets examin NT evidnc to th
contrary]
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:48:58 -0500 Slade Henson writes:
Pax
Romana..ruled supreme, and Yeshua
died.
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