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Sent: December 20, 2004 09:17
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE
revisited
Iff both you and I believe alike as to both Man
& God then, I've misunderstood you. I read you as saying that HK 'had' a
'spirit' and a 'soul'. As to Gregory, you are correct. There's no
contradiction here that I can see.
jt: What I've said is that HK is
primarily a spirit being who has a soul and a physical body. As to Gregory and
his perichoresis, what point is there in God dancing with himself, or any one
of us dancing with ourselves for that matter.
What 'tools' you ask? David, I believe some
software package(s). You, I understood to have a concordance and, some
'language aids'.
jt: Oh, thank you. Yes I have a
Concordance and a Dictionary. Do you possess and use the same
tools?
As to 'words', you've totally lost me. We both
(all) employ them. They have meaning. Our understanding of those words
ESPECIALLY IN SCRIPTURE differs.
jt: Because most Christians don't
go to God's Word and seek Him for understanding. Laziness dictates too much of
the time and they let others do their homework for them which is not
good.
I am still waiting for YOUR response to the
matter of understanding being partial and provisional AND that what you speak
(teach) on some matters might be 1. a little bit incorrect 2. quite a bit
incorrect 3. completely wrong?
jt: I can agree that nobody so far has "all
knowledge" however, scripture is the plumbline and if it is understood there,
then what is the problem?? Healing is in the atonement. Christ became a
"curse" for us. Whether or not we choose to walk in God's provision is between
us and the Lord. Sadly it appears that everyone has their own truth
these days.
I've always admired the research 'tools' used
by David & yourself.
This would be an excellent opportunity for
you to employ them.
Many, Judy, believe as you do on the nature
of HK..(one, bipartate, tripate)
I allign myself with 'monism'. God is One and
we are One.
jt: What are the "research
tools" used by David and myself that you admire Lance? You've never said
anything like this before.
I also believe that God is One
and man is one - this is what I have been saying but I
understood you to be a follower of those
who have been influenced by and
follow the writings of Gregory of Nyzantius(?) and his idea of Perichoresis or the Godhead in
a divine dance which would of
necessity take more than One.
Thus endeth the lesson ('til you engage in
some linguistic homework)
jt: Linguistic?? I don't see
the problem as being one of language. In fact, we are warned against
striving over words in scripture
Why can't we agree to use the
words we have been given in scripture and pray to God for
understanding. Would this be
acceptable
with you?
jt: Can you show me
your foundation or basis for these emphatic pronouncements
about humankind Lance?
HK is a living, while breathing, soul.
HK does not HAVE a soul but IS soul.HK is not spirit nor do we
possess A spirit. May I, preemptively, suggest that on this very
important topic, language (original) matters. Hebrew 'monism' is our
template here. Paul, in no way disagrees with this.
Essence "Spirit, Soul, Body (Triune Being)" has nothing to do with he "Us" in the
Creation narrative.
Essence has nothing to do with God
being
"One."
jt: Of course
it does Slade. God is Spirit
and Man is
spirit; being made in His image is what
differentiates mankind from the
animals.
The Hebrew text (as a rule) deals
strictly with action,i.e., verb forms as opposed to static
"To Be" forms. For instance, Echad (One) in
Deuteronomy 6:4 is a VERB. -- slade
jt: How IYO would the above change the fact
that God is Spirit and so is
Man?
