RE: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited

[ShieldsFamily]

Lance, I believe you just said,  We (HK) are NOT spirit. We do not have a spirit! We do not have a soul!   However, there are many scriptures that tell us Man has a spirit.  When you disregard these, it is easy to see how some would ask you if scripture means anything to you.  Zechariah 12:1 “This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD , who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares:,,,”  There are also many scriptures that tell us that Man has a soul: Matt 15:26 What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? Now it is your turn to tell me that we have no way of discerning what these words mean and/or that you are open to “other possibilities” (meaning you reject what God has written).  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   We (HK) are NOT spirit. We do not have a spirit! We do not have a soul! Can/does the Spirit of Christ/God/Holy Spirit indwell some of HK? Yes. Please say back to me in your own words what 1. you believe I said 2. what you believe 3. what you understood Judy to believe  I honestly want to read your own thought processes. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 20, 2004 10:12 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   Lance, I’ll have to have confirmation of that directly from your wife, thank you. J  As for my question, I consider it to be quite VALID, and deserving of an ANSWER.  What on earth do you mean”think it through”?????  You SAID you do not possess a spirit! So do you or don’t you????? I refuse to come up with a question that you can answer more easily—you brought it up. If you refuse to answer, I can only assume you mean what you said, and that you do not believe you have the Holy Spirit. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   I am not saying that. By the by I actually stopped beating my wife just earlier this morning you'll all be happy to hear.   Iz:Take what I actually said. Think it through. Come up with questions other than this one. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 20, 2004 09:56 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   Lance, are you saying you are not indwelled by the Holy Spirit? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   HK is a living, while breathing, soul. HK does not HAVE a soul but IS soul.HK is not spirit nor do we possess A spirit. May I, preemptively, suggest that on this very important topic, language (original) matters. Hebrew 'monism' is our template here. Paul, in no way disagrees with this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 20, 2004 06:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited   On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:59:37 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Essence "Spirit, Soul, Body (Triune Being)" has nothing to do with he "Us" in the Creation narrative. Essence has nothing to do with God being "One." jt: Of course it does Slade. God is Spirit and Man is spirit; being made in His image is what differentiates mankind from the animals.     The Hebrew text (as a rule) deals strictly with action,i.e., verb forms as opposed to static "To Be" forms. For instance, Echad (One) in Deuteronomy 6:4 is a VERB. -- slade   jt: How IYO would the above change the face that God is Spirit and so is Man?