I did, Terry, say that God is gracious. We don't 'convert' people. The
Spirit of the Living God illumines hearts and minds. I've seen much in you
that leads me to believe that you are certainly not out of touch.

PS: With which firearm would you going to blow Bambi to smithereens?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: December 20, 2004 08:45
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor


> Lance Muir wrote:
>
> >David Miller's rephrasing of Judy's rhetorical question 'doesn't God's
Word
> >mean anything' certainly calls for a direct answer. Yes, God's Word(s) do
> >mean ANYTHING. It is possible that, during my 'tenure' at OCB, I've seen
> >more examples of the ANYTHING that God's word(s) MEAN to fellow believers
> >than you have seen in the context of your life..
> >Someone has said that the distinction between adapt and adopt is finer
than
> >a hair and harder than a diamond. We all  cross that line from time to
time.
> >Some adaptation, which does not compromise truth, is necessary in order
to
> >communicate with each new generation.(See, as an example, Eugene
Peterson's
> >'The Message') I've read your posts, David, outlining both how and what
you
> >preach. Thankfully, God is gracious. You are locked into both a form and
> >content that reflect early to mid-twentieth century thinking. As to the
> >'scientific' logic of Popperian falsifiability governing your
rationalistic
> >interpretation of the Scriptures, one can't fail to note how much you are
> >yet engaged in the 'Enlightenment Project' though it has long since
failed.
> >As a man behind his time, David, I'd suggest that instead of critiquing
that
> >which you do not know by both an outdated methodology and epistemology
that
> >you enter the 21st century. Perhaps your daughter(?) now home for
Christmas
> >could be of some assistance to you rather than the other way 'round. A
real
> >scientist, while in debate with Phillip Johnson on the subject of
evolution,
> >said 'as a scientist he makes a great lawyer (his profession)'
> >
> >As to Torrance's 'philosophy', Judas' ultimate destiny and, what Jesus
means
> >when He speaks these are matters for another day. Sometimes, David, even
> >believers are incorrigible. Whether that reference is to you, myself or,
to
> >some extent, both of us I don't think will ever be resolved on this
forum.
> >
> >
> =======================================================
> Too bad, David.  Your version of the Gospel is obsolete.  Modern man
> cannot connect with your message.
>
> Guess I may as well go crawl in a hole and die.  I am even obsoleeeeeter
> than you. :-)
> Terry
>
> >
> >
> >
>
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know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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