Re: [TruthTalk] The Right Way To Get To The Truth

[Knpraise]

In a message dated 12/21/2004 9:41:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jt: To me John is putting the homosexual scenario into his concept of Romans 7 ie: V.15 "For that which I do I allow not; for what I would, that I do not; but what I hate, that I do... and Paul goes on to say in Vs.17 that it is not him doing these things but sin that dwells in him because he delights in God's Law after the inward man but there is another law working in his members warring against the law of his mind and bringing him into captivity to the law of sin." 
 
Perhaps the first homosexual man's conflicted conscience causes John to believe he is further along than the second - who has no qualms about what he is doing. However, Paul does not remain in his wretchedness and neither should they or we if we choose to serve God because Paul goes on to say "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit; for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (Romans 8:1,2); it is impossible to act out homosexual impulses in the Spirit.
 
So if this in fact is what John is saying then I wouldn't agree that the characterization of "what we do is an irrelevant thing" is fair in any context because the wages of sin has ALWAYS been and is still DEATH and it is our responsibility as servants of the Lord is to tell it like it is.
 
Grace and Peace,
Judy

I am not going to get sucked into a scenario of someone else's creation.   But I will say this:   you believe that you are saved by your obedience (read: works) and I do not.    If I misunderstand, let me know.   

By the way, Judy, your sharing was great.   I hope that your becoming is an on-going thing, and that you will find a place in your for those who see the biblical message differently. 

John