Jt:It'd be interesting to see David Miller's response to this.
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Sent: December 26, 2004 15:42
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Deliberate sin

Judy Taylor wrote:
 

From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Slade, Jeff, and anyone else who has spent a significant time in old testament study, I need some help.  I believe that someone on this list pointed out that forgiveness under the law was only possible for unintentional sin.  I would like to know if that was so, and if so, how did so many of those listed in the geneology of Jesus who intentionally sinned obtain forgivness?  I know that they were saved by faith, but I cannot reconcile what seems to me to be two opposing statements.  Those being "no forgivness for intentional sin", and "Saved by faith". This presents a real puzzle to me.
Terry
 
jt: Hi Terry, it may help if you share which people in the genealogy of Jesus intentionally sinned. tc:I would say probably all of them.  Some of the more notable would be Abraham, Judah, David, and Solomon. (adultery, lying, murder and idol worship.) Not all of these were under the law.
 
I'm aware of the part of the law that says "the soul who sins presumptuously shall be cut off from among his people" (Num 15:30) and the one that says "the man that will do presumptuously and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the Lord thy God, or unto the judge, even that an shall die; and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel" (Deut 17:12)
 
Under the New Covenant I see parallels to these with the man in Corinthians who Paul said should be turned over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh with the hope that his soul would eventually be saved (by repentance) and the person who refuses to hear the one sinned against as well as a delegation from the Church - who should be disfellowshipped. judyt


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