Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

[Lance Muir]

Postscript:On being picky, picky, picky..I do understand your meaning when you speak of  'My God' but, part of the discussion re:the orthodox faith has to do with this exclusionary mindset. Don't we all believe in THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD AND THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN when adopting a more inclusionary mindset?   Just before you, or others, respond just let me get out my bulletproof shield.  ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2005 07:31 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth Lance Muir wrote: Your honor, learned counsel for Calvin seeks an answer! =========================================== Calvin contends that only the elect ( chosen before the world was created) are saved. By adopting that belief, he is saying that no one but the elect can enter Heaven, therefore God created billions of people over thousands of years, just so He could condemn them to eternal damnation with never a moment when they could have been saved. I know my God better than that.  Calvin sucks. Terry