Re: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture

[Lance Muir]

I commend to such 'Schullerian's' as yourself the book 'Genius, Grief and Grace' - A Doctor looks at Suffering and Success - Dr. Gaius Davis "about some gifted troubled Christians' ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2005 07:23 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture I would agree that some things are not changed.  Our DNA is not changed.  Our sinful flesh is not eradicated, thus remaining for us to die to for the rest of our lives on earth.  However I hope you know what I mean by my _expression_ �changes a person completely.�  I am referring to one�s changed outlook on life when one is born again of the Spirit.  One�s entire paradigm is changed.  One�s desires are changed.  One�s whole purpose in life is changed.  You can even see the change in their face!  You can even see the Holy Spirit in their eyes.  Have you never experienced this yourself, or noticed it in others who have been saved? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:58 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture   'change a person completely'???? This is most certainly NOT true of you nor of anyone else on this forum. Would you not agree, Iz? ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2005 16:47 Subject: [TruthTalk] Believing scripture   Jeff, I have no idea where YOUR venom came from below.  Judy gave us a scripture that explains exactly the remedy to Lance�s statement that At the core, I believe real change to be more apparent than real. To quote myself, "Who you are at six is who you are a sixty.  This is not �the divisive and argumentative spirit of this individual�  This is the power of God to change a person completely.  I can attest to it personally.  Can you? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:44 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Deceiving and Being Deceived was Judy's Plagiarism   My advise to Lance is to ignore the divisive and argumentative spirit of this individual. To me it is obvious that her only purpose is to cause strife here. Much of my reason for being so quiet is the garbage spewing from her fingertips. The venom is there for all to see. Those that cannot see it are either blind or in denial. I've come to the point that I no longer care if I am welcome here, but I am compelled to call a spade a spade and let the chips fall Good day, Jeff   Life makes warriors of us all. To emerge the victors, we must arm ourselves with the most potent of weapons. That weapon is prayer. --Rebbe Nachman of Breslov ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 14:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Deceiving and Being Deceived was Judy's Plagiarism   Not for the New Creation in Christ Lance because For them "old things are passed away and all things have become new"   On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:49:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: My friend, Jonathan, and I were sitting here talking about this very thing not two hours ago. He is the more hopeful of the two. At the core, I believe real change to be more apparent than real. To quote myself, "Who you are at six is who you are a sixty. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     In a message dated 1/1/2005 8:52:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would be curious as to how you plan to do what you must do.  Izzy