In a message dated 1/9/2005 6:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



So be it  !!!!   How can I conclude that Dave Hansen is not a brother ( in the grandest sense of that word) when this confession is so?    The only rebuttal, as I see it, is to effectively argue that "brotherhood" is based upon doctrinal agreement that finds him no longer a Mormon

DAVEH:   ???   Not sure why you would deny me Mormonism while maintaining Protestantism, JD.  Is that not a double standard?  It would be as you are understanding my post  --   but that is not what I am saying.   I think my use of the word "effectively" has caused some confusion.   My point is that one cannot make an effective argument.   The only rebuttal to your inclusion would be an effective argument that allows for the differing traditions of all except you  --   not possible as far as i am concerned. 
but allows me to continue as a Pentecostal and and Kay as a Messianic and Bill as a Bricklayin Fool For Christ and Jonathan/Lance as Canadian Mega Liberals !!   Dave will never agree with us "protestants,"

DAVEH:  Seems like I already did....at least in one aspect......that without Jesus, there would be no salvation.   Absolutely  --  sorry the confusion. 
nor will any of us convert to Mormonism.

DAVEH:   Hey....no need to draw hasty conclusions, JD!    :-D Read on  ;-)
  Nor will I ever be whatever Judy is  (I truly do not know her denominational tie) or a Baptist as is BillyT.   But the fact embraced in the above "confession" binds us together in a way that cannot be destroyed. This includes you. 

DAVEH:   Perhaps.....But I suspect you are making a lot of TTers rather uncomfortable right now, JD.  Very few TTers are going to feel good about getting chummy with a Mormon boy.Perhaps. 
Why so   ------------   because we are only passively involved in this reconciliation that names Christ as the Author and Finisher.   Joseph Smith is not that  --   neither is Charles Finney,  the Pope,  Calvin, Luther and the like. 

JD






John

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