[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:53:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


John wrote  > when, exactly, was the prodigal saved?   When he came to himself?   When he turned and started the trek home?   When he saw his father?   When he came to the door of the house?   When he entered therein or when or accepted and particiated in the meal?   I say  --   in the pit, with the swine, covered with mud,  coming to himself. 



I say he was the father's son throughout. The fact that the father was always looking for his son's return ought to tell us that the son was accepted and loved and considered a son throughout. Repentance brought the son to his senses; it did not make him a son. Repentance brings us to our senses; it does not make us sons or daughters of God. Adopted in Christ, we are already His children.
 
Bill
 


Yes, a son always.   But in need of a turning around, correct?   If he had not turned what would have been the implications?   It seems to me that the prodigal son was separated from his father because of his decision to reject the father's partnership and live for himself.   Destruction was his only destiny. 

Agree?

John Boy
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That is most assuredly true.  Sitting in the pigpen did not restore him.  Neither did thinking about going back.  It was when he returned to the father that the celebration started.
Terry

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