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DAVEH: My current comments are in
RED.........
No, the question itself...you lost me. But, I have PS. 82 open and
my translation (Complete Jewish Bible) says...Elohim [gods,
judges]. I think what you're referring
to is the .....you are gods part,
right?
DAVEH: Yes, that is how I read it as
well. Perry mentioned that it was referring to judges who judge in
behalf of God (I hope I've got that right, Perry). But if that were the
case, I don't understand why Jesus would refer to theos (Jn
10:34&35), suggesting a deity to be worshiped, to be used in his
defense. DavidM seemingly gave a pretty good logical explanation
yesterday that I will ponder when I have more time. I'm just not
sure labeling them as judges quite does justice to the meaning of Ps
82. Why would the author do that IF he could have used judges
instead. Maybe I should be asking the question....would judges
have been a better term to use....if not, why not? Had PS 82 used
judges, I doubt Jesus would have referenced it in his
defense.
jt: Why not Daveh? Wasn't he speaking at
Solomon's Porch in the temple so we can assume there were some Jewish
leaders there, (the ones ordained to judge the people on God's
behalf)? An alternative is Psalm 96:5 which says "For all the gods
of the nations are idols" but I don't believe
Jesus would identify himself with that, do
you?
First thing that comes to mind is that Benny HaHA Hinn says the
same thing it seems you're
saying.
DAVEH? Hmmmmmm........that's
curious. I guess BH hasn't much credibility here in TT, but how does the
Protestant world in general treat him for suggesting gods refers to
plural deity in PS 82?
jt: This is another area where BH is "off the rails" In the
past he has taught some other outlandish things (but was supposed to have
repented) - this is why we must be Berean and not swallow everything
we hear taught publicly.
Am I totally off base and
confused?
That's where I thought you were going with this. Rachel stole her
father's gods and brought them with her when she left with Jacob. There
are other instances where we see the people cursed for their idolatry.
Anything that takes your mind off of God I guess could be considered
idolatry. Money, material possessions, etc. I think
some dude was trying to help people understand God better and gave a
midrash/parable of the three-in-One. I've heard the egg theory,
too....the egg is ONE object, but contains the shell, the yolk and the
white stuff. Three rolled into one. I think it was nice to give people
more of an understanding, but I think it has gone overboard. You can't
put God in a box.
DAVEH: Do you think one can understand the nature of God?
Should we try?
jt: Yes we should try, we should seek the Lord with all of
our heart because this is the only way we will find Him. Jesus is
the nature of God which is what he meant when
he said "If you have seen me you have seen the Father" His image is
what the walk of salvation should conform us
to...
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