RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related Different Roads

[Slade Henson]

However, the manner in which you treat them would not make me, if I were a Mormon, want to become a "true Christian". Telling someone they are reprobate, or not a Christian, or bound for hell, well, tain't cool.

I posted a few days about Cheryl and my experience with her. One of the reasons Cheryl was an atheist was because of the way people had presented the Gospel to her. She was attracted to a loud mouth man...making a scene and a ruckus. Being nosy or maybe curious as most of us are, she went to hear him. Until he turned on her. He asked her where the father of her young was. When she was honest and told him there was no father...he proceeded to call her a whore (at the top of his lungs) belittled her and embarrassed her in front of a crowd of people. Then condemned her to hell. He had no idea what her story was. In fact, IMO, he didn't care. He got a big crowd so he could work out his own frustrations on them. He turned many people off from the Lord.

Great guy. He impressed me.

 

 

Kay

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 13.43
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related Different Roads

My point is why do you continue to exclude David from the "Christian" category? He said he worships GOD, though he believes there are other gods.

 

 

Only God can really exclude him.

Now according to the definition I provided of Christian

One valid way of determining what fits that definition is to determine what is outside of the domain that is defined. There are many examples of defining elements, what makes a christian. One is the nature of the God you worship. This is why LDS Authorities reject christians as apostates. Christians do not believe in God the Father has a body with parts and passions as we do. This in itself is a condemnation upon them! "And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man"

One of the defining elements is MONOtheism

Mormons are HENOtheists

 

There are many that claim to worship God yet deny him in their works, is there not?

On the basis of what the Word of god says he condemns himself Titus 3:11

LDS love to look for sheep in other folds and then subvert & heap all the LDS requirements upon them.

 

Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law

Who forsake the way of truth

 

I am commanded to:

2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his.

 

I am commanded to:

Shun their bablings, hold fast to the Word and refute & rebuke them. Is this not so?

Titus 1 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

The word tells me there are MANY decievers are you telling me there are not?

The word tells me there are those that profess God but are really reprobates.

Where and who might these many decievers be?

 

Fact is Daveh is an unbeliever. Though he does believe in all things Joe.

His faith hangs on his church, his prophet, his Book of Mormon and of course Joseph Smith in whom all men must pass to enter into glory. Jesus Christ just recieves lip service. His "atonement only covers temporal death and provides ressurection for all (universalism) in spite of if they even believe he ever existed. LDS must cover themselves for the spiritual death by works and law keeping

 

If I did not care for the Mormon people I would not spend thousands of hours and dollars "Holding forth the word of life" to them.

Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My point is why do you continue to exclude David from the "Christian" category? He said he worships GOD, though he believes there are other gods.

 

Kay

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 11.43
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related Different Roads

Correct, so what is your point?

Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Still overly vague and broad. This would include many brands of people and many different denominations.

 

Kay

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 08.40
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related Different Roads

Christians: Those who worship the One true God who has REVEALED Himself through the Bible.

 

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