I especially likes these two portions: "We have not been afraid to argue strenuously with each other, but our arguments have been conducted in a sincere desire genuinely to understand each other�and in the process we have formed some deep bonds of friendship."
Something lacking on TT. I don't think there is a "sincere desire to genuinely understand each other" here. I think instead there is a sincere desire here to control others' beliefs and tell them how wrong they are. This is what I have meant when I have said if it's not a salvation issue, then it's a non-issue with me. "I know that I have learned much in this continuing dialogue, and I am now convinced that we evangelicals have often seriously misrepresented the beliefs and practices of the Mormon community. Indeed, let me state it bluntly to the LDS folks here this evening: we have sinned against you. The God of the Scriptures makes it clear that it is a terrible thing to bear false witness against our neighbors, and we have been guilty of that sort of transgression in things we have said about you. We have told you what you believe without making a sincere effort first of all to ask you what you believe." My thinking exactly...which is why I ask Dave H. what he believes...not what others claim he believes. Why is that others know his beliefs more than he does? Why is it that others know Messianic beliefs better than we do? I think the information get misconstrued, twisted, and turned. I still see a problem, though. For instance...this is evil, that is evil....coming from someone who doesn't know anything about it. How can you form an opinion of something which you have no clue about, that you've never even looked into for yourself, that you have absolutely no understanding of, but are unwilling to GET any understanding? The "you" above is not directed at YOU, Blaine, but all of US. Thank you for posting the article. Kay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 10.04 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? For you on TT who might have an evangelical bent, the following might be of interest. I did not copy the speech itself, given in the Salt Lake City Tabernacle on January 14, 2005, which can be found on http://www.beliefnet.com/story/156/story_15656_1.html in case you are interested. It has stirred quite a fuss among other evangelicals 'We Have Sinned Against You' A leading evangelical speaks at the Mormon Tabernacle and says evangelicals have spread lies about LDS beliefs. By Richard Mouw For the first time in 105 years, non-Mormons mounted the pulpit at the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City on Nov. 14. The event, dubbed an "Evening of Friendship," was organized by Standing Together, a network of 100 evangelical churches trying to improve relations with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Historical animosity dating back to the founding of the LDS Church has heightened in recent years between the two groups, particularly in the 1990s, when high-profile evangelical leaders said that Mormons are not Christians and the Southern Baptist Convention held one of its annual meetings in Salt Lake City, partially with the goal of converting Mormons to evangelical Protestantism. In what the Deseret News referred to as "stunningly candid" comments, Fuller Theological Seminary president and Beliefnet columnist Richard J. Mouw apologized to Mormons for evangelicals' tendency to distort the truth about Latter-day Saints' beliefs. "Let me state it clearly. We evangelicals have sinned against you," Mouw said. The speech is making the rounds among surprised and generally pleased evangelical and Mormon groups. We reprint the remarks below. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
