Ephesians 5
   1(A)Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children;    
   2and (B)walk in love, just as Christ also (C)loved [a]you and (D)gave Himself up for us, an (E)offering and a sacrifice to God as a (F)fragrant aroma.
   
   3But (G)immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints;    
   4and there must be no (H)filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which (I)are not fitting, but rather (J)giving of thanks.    
   5For this you know with certainty, that (K)no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom (L)of Christ and God.  
   6(M)Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things (N)the wrath of God comes upon (O)the sons of disobedience.    
   7Therefore do not be (P)partakers with them;    
   8for (Q)you were formerly (R)darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as (S)children of Light    
   9(for (T)the fruit of the Light consists in all (U)goodness and righteousness and truth),    
   10(V)trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord.    
   11(W)Do not participate in the unfruitful (X)deeds of (Y)darkness, but instead even (Z)expose them;    
   12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret.    
   13But all things become visible (AA)when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light.    
   14For this reason it says,
         "(AB)Awake, sleeper,
         And arise from (AC)the dead,
         And Christ (AD)will shine on you."    
   15Therefore be careful how you (AE)walk, not (AF)as unwise men but as wise,    
   16(AG)making the most of your time, because (AH)the days are evil.    
   17So then do not be foolish, but (AI)understand what the will of the Lord is.    
   18And (AJ)do not get drunk with wine, for that is (AK)dissipation, but be (AL)filled with the Spirit,    
   19(AM)speaking to one another in (AN)psalms and (AO)hymns and spiritual (AP)songs, (AQ)singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord;    
   20(AR)always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to (AS)God, even the Father;    
   21(AT)and be subject to one another in the (AU)fear of Christ.  (Even to your Moderators on TT.
J )

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Moderators Now

 

Jeff Powers wrote:

I also have to comment on Davids mention  of LAW.

Considering that most here reject God's Law, you are all a bunch of Lawless individuals, so why do we now need the "Laws of David"? It's obvious that no one here is obedient to God (I include myself) as He expects it, so what makes anyone think that they are going to obey "the David's Law"?  I said in my last post that I recon several will be exempt from the "LAW".  The David say's, "The law is for the lawless..." yet time will tell. I'm sure we will see a few pets continue to get away with whatever they want.

  On another note, the language issue is ridiculous!  Consider the historical examples, writers from the beginning of written languages have always been careful and creative to use euphemisims, and have been careful to not upset the masses with questionable language. The uptight "Moral Majority" (didn't that come from our friend, Jerry Falwell?) is laughable in light of the evidence!  Consider this, if Yeshua appeared today as the Bible tells of his earthly walk and ministry, what would his Talmidim be like?

  Lets see now, some commercial fishermen, I'm telling ya, these saints certainly don't talk like most of you would call acceptable language. How about the crooked IRS agent? Or maybe the renegade, rebellious biker with the right cause but the wrong methods? (OK so thats a little far out there, but Judas Iscariot strikes me as a biker)

  What do they all have in common?  A down to earth manner of speech that at times is coarse.  In fact, do you REALLY think Yeshua only said,"You Vipers..." as it has come down to us?   I don't because he was making a very strong point and "viper" just doesn't cut it when talking to the types he was talking to. To think otherwise is to have ones head in the sand. 

Jeff

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Let me speak from experience Jeff.  At one time I was a fisherman.  At one time my speech was coarse.  At that time I was not a disciple.  When I became a disciple my speech changed.  That speech was the world's speech.  I am a new creature now, no longer do I use the methods of the world to communicate feelings or thoughts.  I would think the first  disciples did the same. 
Just a thought, for what it's worth.
Terry

 

 

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