John wrote:
> Let me get this straight.  It is because this was
> your first public message that you have trouble
 >seeing "friendship evangelism" there?    Huh?

The point is that this passage, Is. 58, exposed to me how "friendship 
evangelism" was not enough.  Up to that point in time, that is all I did. 
It was safe and comfortable.  Public preaching is not.

John wrote:
> First,  "friendship evangelism" is something Judy T
> made up  --  not me.   I actually never use the expression.

It is a term used by many Protestants to denote evangelism through 
friendship rather than preaching.  Many churches give classes and seminars 
in "Friendship Evangelism," even though the Bible teaches us that God chose 
to use the foolishness of preaching to save the lost.  If you don't 
understand what "Friendship Evangelism" is, then that would explain why you 
did not understand my comments about Is. 58.

John wrote:
> Isa 58:9-11 needs to be read by everyone on this forum
> -   especially the KJV (in this case, the most poetic of all
> the translations).  The passage presents one who is searching,
> searching, searching for his God.   The search is over, for
> the sake of this passage, as one pours himself out for the
> afflicted and gives himself to the hungry.  If you don't see
> the connection  --  stop preaching.  ...............  immediately.

I think you need to back up and read the chapter from the beginning.  I see 
NOBODY searching for God in this passage.  Isaiah is rebuking hypocrite 
religion.  He is rebuking those who think God wants them to fast, and he 
tells them that the true fast is to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo 
heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, to break every yoke, to share 
bread with the hungry, to bring the poor cast out into your own home, to 
give clothing to the poor, to not hide oneself from their close relatives. 
Then, if they did these things, they would find God.  That is the point. 
Those willing to SACRIFICE THEMSELVES, to deny self, these are the ones who 
will find God.  Some religious people think if they go without food twice a 
week that makes them close to God, but Isaiah here rebukes them, telling 
them to bring the homeless into their own home and sacrifice their personal 
privacy, to take time out to go to the park and feed the hungry and bring 
them clothing, etc.  It tells them to break the bands of iniquity, which is 
done by firm rebuke (I learned this by the example of Jesus).

This passage rebukes HYPOCRISY head on.  It rebukes FRIENDSHIP EVANGELISM. 
It teaches in its place a philosophy of emptying oneself for the poor and 
the wicked, and making sacrifices.  If I were to teach any friendship 
evangelism class these principles and then try and have them all do it, the 
class would empty out within just a few weeks.  They would all quit. 
Friendship evangelism teaches a different approach.  It teaches you to 
invite your neighbor over for coffee and watch a movie together.  You don't 
rebuke your neighbor.  You make friends with him.  Friendship evangelism is 
a way of building social clubs, not building the kingdom of God.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 


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