RE: [TruthTalk] Evangelism

[ShieldsFamily]

JD, Yes, we HAVE sinned, which is why we need a Savior, to deliver us from the penalty and effects of sin, and to free us from the bondage of having to continue sinning. You draw a distinction between past sins and the continual sin circumstance when you capitalize "HAVE" in the above.   two things wrong with this:   you ignore the present time part of the same passage  (and are falling short of [His glory] ), not to mention the fact that past time, HAVE sinned, is used for a very different reason than you suppose   --  it is used to describe the certainty that all are falling short because ALL HAVE SINNED   -   including the millions and millions that were not living 200 years ago and are not alive yet.  Past time in Ro 3:23 has nothing to do with this myopic view of the sin condition of man and everything with the fact of sin IN our lives, a fact that is as certain as the past in spite of the realization that it has not yet occurred.    If it included future sinners, it is not a stretch to see that included future sin.  JD   JD, I am not ignoring the fact that we still sin when we forget our freedom to walk in the Spirit instead of in the flesh/sin nature.  You, on the other hand, seem to ignore the fact that we no longer have to walk in sin daily.  In fact, you state that it is something we should expect to do every day, and offer yourself as proof.  (Not good news!) Izzy