FWIW I, and I suspect all TT participants, would
believe this to be true. FWIW again, my reason
for our last couple of 'engagements' was this: Debbie, John, David, Bill and
Gary (he may not count as a legitimate illustration) have, with patience and
care, attempted to demonstrate your ACTUALLY MISSING THE POINT, of post after
post.
jt: Lance, where are you at?? At
least I've never mistaken Gary for George :) and David Miller is the ONLY one
in your list of patient and long suffering teachers who has ever
attempted to communicate or explain anything to me with patience and care
and who has never constantly nagged me about missing some
convoluted point. Just because IYO I am guilty of this does
not mean that you and your friends (the rest of the "liberal triad") are
right and I am wrong but please save me the hearts and flowers. Debbie
and Bruce Cockburn are off following their own drumbeat and Gary
uses unintelligible code.
Under such circumstances it is trying for them
and, they 'move on'.
jt: Where to? I've seen a lot
of sarcasm, anger, and emotional outbursts - is that moving on?
Am I being patronizing? No!
jt: Yes!
Constantly.....
IFF what I have said herein is true then, do I
believe that this impasse can be rectified? No!
jt: With this I can agree. So
what is the solution? Should I unsub so you can liberate Izzy &
Terry and straighten out David? But what about Kevin, he would certainly be a
fly in the ointment wouldn't he?
Now, as for those who 'get' you (Izzie, Terry,
David (he is comfortable in all 'camps' due to the looseness with which he
embraces 'truth'), let me suggest the order of 'overlap': Izzie-almost
completely (peas in a pod), Terry-frequently (he, in fact, affirms others from
time to time), David-Critical disengagement makes him a friend to all and, an
adversary to all) IMO-Just
musing
jt: So you are the list critic and you have us
all locked in and card filed. Poor God; if only He realized up front what an
impossible job He has undertaken with us rejects...
So long as I'm in the
narrow barrell and headed for the strait gate I'll be rejoicin' all the
way.
His righteousness does not travel the broad
road...
Jt:Fish in a barrel, Judy. Fish in a
barrel.
Lance when are you
going to deign to come down from that 'lofty pedestal' you have set
yourself on?
Where would you get the idea that
you have been ordained judge and what irony for you think you
have the "big Jesus" and are on top of
it all; God may be gracious but He does not bless ignorance.
Twice in one day. Judy acknowledges "I
don't get it'. Sadly, Judy, you often, though not always DO NOT GET IT.
Happily, God is gracious.
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writes:
There is no strife
or disunity in Christ and He is not divided
JD: On the surface,
this is untrue.
jt: Had you ever considered that
maybe what we see 'on the surface' is not the
reality?
But, perhaps I do
not know what you mean with the phrase "no stife or disunity in
Christ."
jt: It means just what it says - the Church he is
coming for will have no spot, wrinkle, or blemish; wouldn't you
categorize strife and
disunity as wrinkles and
blemishes?.
When can we say unity has occurred?
jt: When we are of one heart and one
mind. When we are all say the same thing and doing what He
says.
When a division occurs and assuming one
believer in definitely in Christ -- how does the
onlooker tell the difference in the two opponents?
jt: Eventually, as ppl grow into Christ
and His love is perfected in their hearts a wolf will be exposed
in spite of the sheepskin by
what is coming out of his
mouth.
In I Cor 1, when
ones describes as a part of the problem are in Christ?
John
jt: Is the above a question? I
don't get it....