RE: [TruthTalk] Basis of Unity

[ShieldsFamily]

I believe you can be saved but still a baby Believer, and not yet under the conviction of the Holy Spirit for all sin in your life.  God works on us like unpeeling an onion, one layer at a time perhaps, gently working inward to deeper things.  But we are called to speak like holy folk. As we are sanctified He cleans up our mouths along with every other part of our lives. Cursing seems like a lower level sin compared to many others (such as unkindness). I don’t know anything about Bono’s personal life, but often the worldly professions bring people down into sin.  I hope he gets good/true Fellowship/Discipleship. I will ask my husband (the drummer/percussionist) what he thinks. BTW, I think G would dig our church music. None of that Kum-ba-yah stuff. J But I miss the old hymns of faith which we don’t hear often. This week the music was taken from Starfield and Jeremy Camp. Izzy   Ephesians 4:29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.   Colossians 3:8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.   Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person.   1 Corinthians 1:5 that in everything you were enriched in Him, in all speech and all knowledge…     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:16 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of Unity   and the v articulate Bono isn't here to deal with this himself   ..but for me, isn't it true biblically that speech (as choice of wording in this case) is always a problem relative to the Word of God?   this seems evident; biblical writers have indicated that the Spirit appears to be more permissive with them than their readers, audiences, outsiders (naive onlookers) expect/ed   a corollary would be that (e.g.) an outside/er's perspective, thoroughly lacking biblical permissiveness effectively disqualifies him as a valued judge of  in/appropriate human speech; for the biblical writers, it fell to the Spirit to handle that, ultimately to handle, e.g., the language of Matthew 23 relative to, e.g., 1Cor 13..   humans naturally attempt to assess the net spiritual effect of such ministries, including, e.g., of 20th c. Billy Graham, of 21st c. 'SPs' (meaning that we assess the outcomes of their SPing per se , assessing the end result of thier speech/es irrespective of the technological medium/s..e.g., that you've refered to Spurgeon with some reverence presumes such an assessment)   to be completely fair, though, what about the very same type of assessment (rigorously!) of the band: U2 -- why not? do you know their ministerial roots? how would some bars of 'how to dismantle an atomic bomb': 'Yahweh'  minister to street people in downtown SLC..maybe about like it did to those in NYC the day last fall that U2 rented a flatbed to serenade people roving the streets of Manhattan..the NYC police had zero problem with U2 being there except for the ocean of people along their truck route, straining against the ropes to listen to 'Yahweh'..   i'll post some of their 'bomb' lyrics for you to analyze for yourself/s...hopefully, along with Izzy and me:)   G    On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:37:59 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Do you think Bono is a Christian with that dirty mouth of his? ||