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Yes, and I think some of them have caved in
under the pressure of their "peers"; others are more like you and will
never accept his approach to reconciliation. As Evangelicals, we will each need
to decide where we are at in that continuum.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:28
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult
behavior
Even many of the Evangelicals have called on him to Repent of sin in that
he bore False Witness Bill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John wrote > Romans 14 and I Cor
13 are two passages of scripture written for the express purpose of showing
us how to get along in the face of doctrinal and personal
disagreements. What Dr. Mouw is doing is the only true Christian
response to the Mormon Church -- at this time and with these
present circumstances. He knows full well that he does not speak
for the larger Christian Church. He has no intention of compromising
what he or anyone else believes and has been very clear on that point.
More than one fellowship within the Larger Church has been accepted in spite
of questionable beginnings. ... Dr. Mouw is to be honored, in my
book, in view of the fact that he seeks only a dialogue on this issue
of fellowship. He is doing what Paul did in Athens.
Nothing more and nothing less. He is clearly exemplifying the character of
Christ in these matters.
Well stated, John. By the way, I had Mouw in an
apologetics class. I wish everyone who is disparaging him now could have sat
with me then in that class. They would have a much better context through
which to interpret his statements to the LDS; they may even be able to
understand what he was attempting to say -- perhaps even agree with it
:>) That course can be purchased on tape through Fuller Theological
Seminary, if you are interested; Lance may even sell it, too(?) It is really
good.
Oh, and your statement above seems to me to
have much in common with David's response to g, concerning
tolerance and its right place in the church and our Lord's
economy.
Good stuff,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005
7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult
behavior
In a message dated 2/9/2005 4:52:34 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Unity with error is subversion to God
Community with
error is Complicity with error
God has commanded that we identify and
avoid or separate from error
A recent example of complicity, is
the president of Fuller Mouw which waxes worse &worse decieving
& being decieved
He is trying to build bridges to LDS thru
dialog
Yet he is being used by the LDS who desparately want to be
accepted as Christians AS IS to validate themselves.
His basis for
acceptance and reference for doctrinal beliefs is Stephen Robinson a BYU
Professor. Robinson puts forth an "unorthodox" LDS theology which
soundfs good to Mouw
At the same time the GA's write off
Robinson as Liberal intellectuals thereby distancing themselves from his
unathorized Theology but gaining the benefit of the blessed peace of
Evangelical support
A number of LDS media have quoted Mouw for
support
There is no unity apart from
"error." The recent and not subtle Miller Four debackle
manifest in their inability to agree (even among themselves) on a
comprehensive doctrinal listing is,yet, another proof (yes, I said
"proof") that unity is not based on creedal concepts.
Romans
14 and I Cor 13 are two passages of scripture written for the express
purpose of showing us how to get along in the face of doctrinal and
personal disagreements. What Dr. Mouw is doing is the only true
Christian response to the Mormon Church -- at this time and
with these present circumstances. He knows full well that he
does not speak for the larger Christian Church. He has no intention
of compromising what he or anyone else believes and has been very clear on
that point. More than one fellowship within the Larger Church has
been accepted in spite of questionable beginnings. More than
one fellowship within the Larger Church remains in spite of skewed ideas
and differing expressions of faith. If the Miller Four cannot arrive
at a doctrinally agreeable listing -- it is little wonder that
no else can either.
The fact of the matter is
this --- we are individually servants of a
Another. The vegetarian and the holy day brother in Romans 14
WERE DOCTRINALLY WRONG - and you only substitute your truth
for the biblical message when you (and I mean "anyone") respond by arguing
that meats and special days were not "important" doctrines of the
day. Romans 14 gives us the inspired reason for
accepting others as they stand in faith with Christ. And I Cor
13 gives us sign posts as we move to align our attitude with Christ's in
dealing with disagreements.
Dr. Mouw is to be honored,
in my book, in view of the fact that he seeks only a dialogue on
this issue of fellowship. He is doing what Paul did in
Athens. Nothing more and nothing less. He is clearly
exemplifying the character of Christ in these matters.
JD
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