On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:48:48 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I wrote  >  Instead humanity was purified in relationship with God in Christ's person throughout his life, the tyrants being defeating all along the way, and the humanity "becoming perfected" in the process of learning obedience to God through the things he suffered.
 
jt: How do we learn obedience by what HE suffered?  If this is so then why do we have to learn all over again when God prunes us personally?
 
For the limited sake of this discussion I should have been more specific and just said that "Instead his humanity was purified in relationship with his divinity in Christ's person throughout his life, the tyrants being defeated all along the way, and the his humanity 'becoming perfected' in the process of learning obedience to God through the things he suffered." That would have been easier for you to understand.
 
Nevertheless, in that he is go'el, when he defeated sin, death, and the devil in his humanity in resurrection, he defeated it in all humanity. The only way now for those things to destroy us, in that his victorious resurrection will not be ours to share, would be to reject him as our Lord and Savior. If we do that, our names will be blotted out from the Lambs book of life and in resurrection we will experience, not eternal life, but the second death, for which their is no salvation.   Bill
 
jt: If I remember correctly Bill the go'el concept relates to Ruth and Boaz and this is important to you.  But it was not in his humanity that Jesus defeated sin, death, and the devil.  Yes he did have victory over them in His own life and this is an example to us - But it is the cross that is the power of God and from the cross we receive power to overcome these things in our own lives.   When he ascended he gave gifts to men and it is when we receive Him that we receive the POWER TO BECOME sons of God. (John 1:12)
 
Is this different from what you are saying above?
 
 
 

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